Go Back   The Ford Barn > General Discussion > Early V8 (1932-53)

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-22-2012, 05:44 AM   #1
Fartman
Member
 
Fartman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: adelaide,australia
Posts: 99
Default 6 volt change to 12 volt (pros and cons)

I have 1933 Ford 5 window coupe that i have brought back from near death,and it needs a complete rewire,should i keep it 6 volt or change to 12 volt?.what would i need to change to make it 12 volt?.I would like to keep the car looking as close to original as posible but have realiability,any input would be appriciated,thanks Martin
Fartman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2012, 06:02 AM   #2
Fibber Mcgee
Senior Member
 
Fibber Mcgee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Callahan Fla
Posts: 1,149
Default Re: 6 volt change to 12 volt (pros and cons)

Depends on what your going for, original? ... 6 volts systems work fine as long as they are maintained. I've got one of each and both work fine. The 12 volt is better if you plan on using a modern radio and cell charger but there are ways around that. The 12 volt will need resistors on all gauges and heater and 12 volt bulbs also you'll need 12 volt coil ....I know I'm forgetting stuff here but its late. I would stick with six volts if it were me. Just rewire it with the original style harness, there are several people who make them and that way if you change your mind the wire will be sufficient for either one.
__________________
Wanted, a car with a " Dynaflex Superflowing Unijet Turbovasculator which is Syncromeshed to the Multicoil Hydrotensioned Dual vacuum Dynomometer. "
Fibber Mcgee is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
Old 11-22-2012, 07:04 AM   #3
51 MERC-CT
Senior Member
 
51 MERC-CT's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: East Hartford, Ct
Posts: 5,898
Default Re: 6 volt change to 12 volt (pros and cons)

If re-wiring by all means use 6 volt wire. (larger gage)
This gives you the option of going to 12 volts at a later time.
Although I have converted mine to 12 volt because of the goodies I have (power windows, elec.wipers,etc.), there is no need to convert.
__________________
DON'T RECALL DOING SOMETHING FOR MYSELF BASED ON SOMEONE ELSE'S LIKES OR DISLIKES
51 MERC-CT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2012, 07:21 AM   #4
fortyfords
Senior Member
 
fortyfords's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: faucett, mo
Posts: 419
Default Re: 6 volt change to 12 volt (pros and cons)

In its self, 6 volts only needs good wire integrity to work normal.
fortyfords is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2012, 07:30 AM   #5
George/Maine
Senior Member
 
George/Maine's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Mid coast Maine
Posts: 1,878
Default Re: 6 volt change to 12 volt (pros and cons)

You better off to run 12 volts.
Parts,coil,battery,alt,blubs,radio.
Trailer gueens keep 6 volts.
George/Maine is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2012, 07:47 AM   #6
39portlander
Senior Member
 
39portlander's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Suth'N Maine
Posts: 1,996
Default Re: 6 volt change to 12 volt (pros and cons)

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
On a 12V "pro", certified auto electric has a 1 wire Ford alt/brackett available for the Flathead. I have one on the 59AB in my 39. Scott

I have seen alot of "nos" gen. brushes on the ebay, that might work as a 6V "pro"
39portlander is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2012, 07:48 AM   #7
chuck stevens
Senior Member
 
chuck stevens's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: upstate new york
Posts: 758
Default Re: 6 volt change to 12 volt (pros and cons)

I have them both ways. If you drive it alot go to 12 volts. Better lights, and you can get light bulbs and igntion parts on the road easyer. You also can run a electic pump, GPS, HEI igntion, and more. Down side- you will find out how good your starter drive spring is. This flathead is 12volts, early 60's generator with the falthead end plates. Good luck.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg DSCF0615.jpg (100.7 KB, 99 views)
chuck stevens is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2012, 09:00 AM   #8
KiWinUS
Senior Member
 
KiWinUS's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Charlotte NC KiWi-L100 available here
Posts: 2,960
Default Re: 6 volt change to 12 volt (pros and cons)

Quote:
Originally Posted by George/Maine View Post
You better off to run 12 volts.
Parts,coil,battery,alt,blubs,radio.
Trailer gueens keep 6 volts.
Maybe your "Trailer Queen" is 6 volt
My "Driver" is 6volt
Thats an ignorant statement for sure !!!!
cheers
Tony
KiWinUS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2012, 09:21 AM   #9
G.M.
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Florida and Penna.
Posts: 4,471
Default Re: 6 volt change to 12 volt (pros and cons)

Mine are all 6 volts and work with no problems. I did make some 6 volt alternators for some of the drivers. The alternators charges at idle and low speeds which supplies 7 plus volts at all times keeping the battery fully charged and brighter lights. The generators 6 or 12 volts disconnect from the battery at slow speeds and idle and your running off the battery alone. G.M.
__________________
www.fordcollector.com
G.M. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2012, 09:35 AM   #10
19Fordy
Senior Member
 
19Fordy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Coral Springs FL
Posts: 10,942
Default Re: 6 volt change to 12 volt (pros and cons)

Having halogen headlights makes it worth changing from 6 to 12V for me.
19Fordy is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2012, 10:55 AM   #11
41ford1
Senior Member
 
41ford1's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: ManchVegas, New Hampshah
Posts: 1,589
Default Re: 6 volt change to 12 volt (pros and cons)

I've got one of each. Both systems work fine. The 6 volt system is more sensitve to the integrity of connections and grounds. GM's suggestion to use an alternator is good if you plan to do a lot of low speed operating. Both of mine are generator equiped and I do notice the drop in voltage at slow speeds.

Having halogen headlights is definately a plus. If you are running 6 volt sealbeams hunt for Wagner H6006 lamps. These are 6 volt halogens. These are as bright as the 12 volt.
41ford1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2012, 11:39 AM   #12
4t8v8
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: NW Arkansas
Posts: 524
Default Re: 6 volt change to 12 volt (pros and cons)

As a young feller all we had was 6V. When they finally switched to 12V our electrical systems actually worked without any hassle. Why anyone would go to all the work to rebuild and rewire a car and stick with 6V positive ground is a mystery to me. If you are going to drive it go 12V. If you are going to show I guess 6V is the way to go.
4t8v8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2012, 12:11 PM   #13
Russco
Member
 
Russco's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Springfield IL
Posts: 84
Default Re: 6 volt change to 12 volt (pros and cons)

I can't think of any cons to switching to 12V other than doing the work to do it. However a 6v system works ok.
__________________
Life is hard, after all it kills you!
Russco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2012, 01:27 PM   #14
FlatheadTed
Senior Member
 
FlatheadTed's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Auckland
Posts: 4,705
Send a message via AIM to FlatheadTed
Default Re: 6 volt change to 12 volt (pros and cons)

6 volt is OK if you know how to set your car up ,tuning etc ,all the Model A guys run it ,the down side is a lack of spares on the side of the road ,a battery being one ,a Altama would be a good option,I ran a small 6 volt vw battery it was still starting the car after 9 years ,12 volt is OK , if you have a bad fuel pump and experience hard starting ,mayby for a car thats driven a lot at night ,and you want to run accessory's more frequent burning of points .I recently fixed a car that the 12 volt had pushed the ring gear of so it was rubbing ,about to put a hole on the inside of the pan .
Quote:
Originally Posted by 4t8v8 View Post
As a young feller all we had was 6V. When they finally switched to 12V our electrical systems actually worked without any hassle. Why anyone would go to all the work to rebuild and rewire a car and stick with 6V positive ground is a mystery to me. If you are going to drive it go 12V. If you are going to show I guess 6V is the way to go.
__________________
http://www.flatheadted.com


Flathead Ted brake Floaters ,
FlatheadTed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2012, 05:49 PM   #15
Dodge
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Sonoma, CA.
Posts: 1,497
Default Re: 6 volt change to 12 volt (pros and cons)

An easy solution for the starter drive is to use an old starter drive spring and attach it to the starter where the battery cable goes on and use a nut and bolt to hook the starter cable to the spring, it drops the voltage to about 8 volts on the 6 volt starter.
It makes for easier starting and takes it easy on the stock starter drive.
You can also use the forklift type starter drive which is stronger also. But I like
the starter spring resitor method best.
Dodge is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2012, 08:31 PM   #16
Kurt in NJ
Senior Member
 
Kurt in NJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: on the Littlefield
Posts: 6,159
Default Re: 6 volt change to 12 volt (pros and cons)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 19Fordy View Post
Having halogen headlights makes it worth changing from 6 to 12V for me.
Quartz Halogen bulbs work on 6V generator systems also --I have had them in my A for 10+ years, the same battery for 14 years, never any charging except by driving, no changing of anything except bulbs.
Kurt in NJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2012, 10:20 PM   #17
Fartman
Member
 
Fartman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: adelaide,australia
Posts: 99
Default Re: 6 volt change to 12 volt (pros and cons)

Thanks for all the info Guys,I will be using this car as a daily driver,if i change to 12 volt will i need to change the starter motor,generator,plus other parts?.
Fartman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2012, 10:32 PM   #18
Funky Fords
Junior Member
 
Funky Fords's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Stillwater, OK
Posts: 3
Default Re: 6 volt change to 12 volt (pros and cons)

Could someone tell us more about 6V alternators? Who sells them, etc? Thanks
Funky Fords is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2012, 11:12 PM   #19
Fibber Mcgee
Senior Member
 
Fibber Mcgee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Callahan Fla
Posts: 1,149
Default Re: 6 volt change to 12 volt (pros and cons)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fartman View Post
Thanks for all the info Guys,I will be using this car as a daily driver,if i change to 12 volt will i need to change the starter motor,generator,plus other parts?.
The starter motor can stay the same. As others said it might be hard on the ring gear but I've been running my 6 volt starter 12 volts for a couple years with no problems.
__________________
Wanted, a car with a " Dynaflex Superflowing Unijet Turbovasculator which is Syncromeshed to the Multicoil Hydrotensioned Dual vacuum Dynomometer. "
Fibber Mcgee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2012, 12:03 AM   #20
49r
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Wellington New Zealand
Posts: 308
Default Re: 6 volt change to 12 volt (pros and cons)

I've driven my '49 F1 with its original 6V wiring for 40 years and it's fine. I don't like the look of the 12V batteries ...
49r is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:07 AM.