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Hoogah · 10-24-2015, 08:26 AM

The old girl has developed a leak that may or may not be a rear main problem (according to my reading of previous threads). The photo shows the oil dripping off the bolts (slight) and split pin (major drip!) after a drive, and the nasty drip trail that follows my car into the garage after coming up a slight incline. Yikes!

The first place I'm going to look tomorrow is the oil filler tube, and hope to find the simplest problem before I move on to explore other likely sources. Always hopeful!

However, I don't know what correctly adjusted baffles should look like. Can you guys please describe what I ought to see down there, and as always, good pictures will help (as I didn't find any in my hunt).

Thanks!

John Kuhnast · 10-24-2015, 08:53 AM

My thought is that when you add oil if it runs in fast then the baffles are open.Try running without the cap. Good luck

Kurt in NJ · 10-24-2015, 08:54 AM

If you look in the service bulletins there are pictures of 3 styles of breather pipes, look on page 348, and 454

Big hammer · 10-24-2015, 12:34 PM

Don't try running with the cap off I know first hand that experiment does not work :-(

Ron/IA · 10-24-2015, 05:12 PM

I am puzzled why you would think the oil filler tube might be a cause of you oil link problem. Unless you are thinking the baffles are not allowing back pressure to flow.

I think you have a serious rear main problem.

Hoogah · 10-24-2015, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron/IA

I am puzzled why you would think the oil filler tube might be a cause of you oil link problem. Unless you are thinking the baffles are not allowing back pressure to flow.....

That's the possibility that I'm wanting to eliminate, based on info in previous threads here.

colin1928 · 10-24-2015, 07:25 PM

If the oil cap tabs are bent and the cap pushed on too far that can cause oil leak

Quigley1930 · 10-24-2015, 09:10 PM

Your radius ball setup doesn't look right

Hoogah · 10-24-2015, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by colin1928

If the oil cap tabs are bent and the cap pushed on too far that can cause oil leak

Thanks Colin. Checked and they're OK.

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Originally Posted by Quigley1930

Your radius ball setup doesn't look right

How so?

Mike V. Florida · 10-24-2015, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoogah

Thanks Colin. Checked and they're OK.

How so?

Where are the springs, spacers,cotter pins, that a stock set up has?

Hoogah · 10-25-2015, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike V. Florida

Where are the springs, spacers,cotter pins, that a stock set up has?

Will check all this. Can you tell I'm a novice Model A owner? But willing to learn, so thanks for being specific, Mike. Believe me, I'm not offended by any critique of my car.

Tom Wesenberg · 10-25-2015, 01:47 AM

Besides not having the springs pushing up on the lower cap I see two other things that appear to be wrong. On the left front brake rod return spring, is the spring behind the upset on the rod, so it pushes the rod forward, as it should be? It looks like the upset may be behind the spring, or someone added something behind the spring.

The bottom plate for the battery support appears to be parallel to the mounting frame, but the bottom plate should be spot welded to the frame at an angle, so it sets squarely with the battery.

Mike V. Florida · 10-25-2015, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoogah

W. Can you tell I'm a novice Model A owner?

We all were at some time!

Ask any question you want, the only bad question is the one not asked!

Except asking about which oil to use or if you should get white walls. (do a search and you'll understand the joke)

Synchro909 · 10-25-2015, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike V. Florida

We all were at some time!

Ask any question you want, the only bad question is the one not asked!

Except asking about which oil to use or if you should get white walls. (do a search and you'll understand the joke)

So which oil should I use, Mike!!!

Mike V. Florida · 10-25-2015, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Synchro909

So which oil should I use, Mike!!!

Wise ass!

colin1928 · 10-25-2015, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Synchro909

So which oil should I use, Mike!!!

That depends on if you have whitewalls

Tom Wesenberg · 10-25-2015, 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike V. Florida

Wise ass!

I've heard of Wolf's Head oil, but not Wise Ass.

Synchro909 · 10-25-2015, 05:21 AM

Stop it you guys, you are doing my head in.

Hoogah · 10-25-2015, 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg

Besides not having the springs pushing up on the lower cap I see two other things that appear to be wrong. On the left front brake rod return spring, is the spring behind the upset on the rod, so it pushes the rod forward, as it should be? It looks like the upset may be behind the spring, or someone added something behind the spring.

The bottom plate for the battery support appears to be parallel to the mounting frame, but the bottom plate should be spot welded to the frame at an angle, so it sets squarely with the battery.

You guys are OBSERVANT!! Looks like I'm gonna be a busier than I thought.

wmws · 10-25-2015, 06:45 AM

The oil cap tabs should be bent so the cap can't go down too far.

10-24-2015, 08:53 AM	#2
John Kuhnast Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 564	Re: Oil Filler Tubes Baffles Adjustment My thought is that when you add oil if it runs in fast then the baffles are open.Try running without the cap. Good luck

10-24-2015, 08:54 AM	#3
Kurt in NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: on the Littlefield Posts: 6,159	Re: Oil Filler Tubes Baffles Adjustment If you look in the service bulletins there are pictures of 3 styles of breather pipes, look on page 348, and 454

10-24-2015, 12:34 PM	#4
Big hammer Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Land of Lincoln Posts: 3,131	Re: Oil Filler Tubes Baffles Adjustment Don't try running with the cap off I know first hand that experiment does not work :-(

10-24-2015, 05:12 PM	#5
Ron/IA Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Amana IA Posts: 527	Re: Oil Filler Tubes Baffles Adjustment I am puzzled why you would think the oil filler tube might be a cause of you oil link problem. Unless you are thinking the baffles are not allowing back pressure to flow. I think you have a serious rear main problem. __________________ Ron/IA 1929 Fordor Steelback Hawk A Model A Ford Club http://hawkamodelaclub.org/

10-24-2015, 07:25 PM	#7
colin1928 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Australa Melbourne Posts: 878	Re: Oil Filler Tubes Baffles Adjustment If the oil cap tabs are bent and the cap pushed on too far that can cause oil leak

10-24-2015, 09:10 PM	#8
Quigley1930 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Middleburg, Virginia Posts: 421	Re: Oil Filler Tubes Baffles Adjustment Your radius ball setup doesn't look right

10-25-2015, 01:47 AM	#12
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Oil Filler Tubes Baffles Adjustment Besides not having the springs pushing up on the lower cap I see two other things that appear to be wrong. On the left front brake rod return spring, is the spring behind the upset on the rod, so it pushes the rod forward, as it should be? It looks like the upset may be behind the spring, or someone added something behind the spring. The bottom plate for the battery support appears to be parallel to the mounting frame, but the bottom plate should be spot welded to the frame at an angle, so it sets squarely with the battery.

10-25-2015, 05:21 AM	#18
Synchro909 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 7,496	Re: Oil Filler Tubes Baffles Adjustment Stop it you guys, you are doing my head in. __________________ I'm part of the only ever generation with an analogue childhood and a digital adulthood.

10-25-2015, 06:45 AM	#20
wmws BANNED Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Coatesville, Pa Posts: 719	Re: Oil Filler Tubes Baffles Adjustment The oil cap tabs should be bent so the cap can't go down too far.