The Ford Barn

updraught · 12-18-2023, 07:41 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_4TBQiPLvA

nkaminar · 12-19-2023, 09:15 AM

Nice video. Thanks.

Joe K · 12-19-2023, 10:11 AM

This kind of goes with my thought about Gen-Gas fuel used in the Model A. Low compression Model A engines seem very adaptable to a "wood fired" mode of transportation.

https://www.driveonwood.com/static/m...fema_plans.pdf

And we all know where our current "betters" would have us go - and its not internal combustion. But not to bring this thread "political."

Still, Gen-Gas was brought to a very high degree of refinement in the years before and during WWII. I believe it is Vince Falter at his Fordgarage.com site who covers somewhat the German G28 engine - which was extensively used in this fuel.

A discussion of various "heads" used on the Model A/G28 including those used on wood gas fuel is shown at https://www.fordgarage.com/pages/hea...ssionratio.htm

I note that generally the G28 "GenGas engines" head are GREATER than 7 to 1 compression - which to me is a surprise - but makes sense considering the probable power output one can achieve with a lower energy dense fuel such as GenGas.

Still learning...

Joe K

nkaminar · 12-19-2023, 12:17 PM

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With the wood gas "GenGas" that Joe is talking about, there was a lot of fiddling with the air/gas ratio as the wood in the generator burned. There was also a lot of wear in the engines because of the lack of adequate filtering of the abrasive particles. So, with modern filtering, and a computer controlled "carburetor" this may be a practical solution to high fuel prices, or the lack of fuel in the future. I would think that a pickup truck would be a better vehicle choice because the generator could be mounted in the bed of the truck. I have no idea what the ideal compression ratio would be.

The flame that you see when you burn wood in your fireplace is the wood gas burning. It is a combination of hydrogen, carbon, and carbon monoxide, plus some volatile organic hydrocarbons.

I am really impressed by the Lance Bulldog tractor. One cylinder, two-cycle, huge displacement, rpm you can count, and burning any kind of oil. A good source of used crankcase oil is the marinas and boatyards where people change the oil in their boats.

12-18-2023, 07:41 PM	#1
updraught Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Australia Posts: 1,971	On low compression engines https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_4TBQiPLvA

12-19-2023, 09:15 AM	#2
nkaminar Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Western North Carolina Posts: 3,901	Re: On low compression engines Nice video. Thanks. __________________ A is for apple, green as the sky. Step on the gas, for tomorrow I die. Forget the brakes, they really don't work. The clutch always sticks, and starts with a jerk. My car grows red hair, and flies through the air. Driving's a blast, a blast from the past.

12-19-2023, 10:11 AM	#3
Joe K Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Cow Hampshire Posts: 4,188	Re: On low compression engines This kind of goes with my thought about Gen-Gas fuel used in the Model A. Low compression Model A engines seem very adaptable to a "wood fired" mode of transportation. https://www.driveonwood.com/static/m...fema_plans.pdf And we all know where our current "betters" would have us go - and its not internal combustion. But not to bring this thread "political." Still, Gen-Gas was brought to a very high degree of refinement in the years before and during WWII. I believe it is Vince Falter at his Fordgarage.com site who covers somewhat the German G28 engine - which was extensively used in this fuel. A discussion of various "heads" used on the Model A/G28 including those used on wood gas fuel is shown at https://www.fordgarage.com/pages/hea...ssionratio.htm I note that generally the G28 "GenGas engines" head are GREATER than 7 to 1 compression - which to me is a surprise - but makes sense considering the probable power output one can achieve with a lower energy dense fuel such as GenGas. Still learning... Joe K __________________ Shudda kept the horse. Last edited by Joe K; 12-19-2023 at 10:17 AM.

12-19-2023, 12:17 PM	#4
nkaminar Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Western North Carolina Posts: 3,901	Re: On low compression engines Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) With the wood gas "GenGas" that Joe is talking about, there was a lot of fiddling with the air/gas ratio as the wood in the generator burned. There was also a lot of wear in the engines because of the lack of adequate filtering of the abrasive particles. So, with modern filtering, and a computer controlled "carburetor" this may be a practical solution to high fuel prices, or the lack of fuel in the future. I would think that a pickup truck would be a better vehicle choice because the generator could be mounted in the bed of the truck. I have no idea what the ideal compression ratio would be. The flame that you see when you burn wood in your fireplace is the wood gas burning. It is a combination of hydrogen, carbon, and carbon monoxide, plus some volatile organic hydrocarbons. I am really impressed by the Lance Bulldog tractor. One cylinder, two-cycle, huge displacement, rpm you can count, and burning any kind of oil. A good source of used crankcase oil is the marinas and boatyards where people change the oil in their boats. __________________ A is for apple, green as the sky. Step on the gas, for tomorrow I die. Forget the brakes, they really don't work. The clutch always sticks, and starts with a jerk. My car grows red hair, and flies through the air. Driving's a blast, a blast from the past. Last edited by nkaminar; 12-19-2023 at 12:28 PM.