Model A tech advisors team from Paul Shinn

[Eccentric Old Guy]

Just a little head's up on this. Might be handy for getting technical information and answers to your model A questions...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JziL3XzJ-Q

[McMimmcs]

What are his credentials ??

[baba]

Watch the video and that will answer your question about credentials. I have seen a great many of his personal videos and he is very knowledgeable. You will enjoy them and this new group sounds fantastic.

[GPierce]

Originally Posted by McMimmcs

What are his credentials ??

Watch his video’s.
His video on installing the Mitchell Overdrive made my installation much easier.

[Curtis in MA]

I think I like posting questions here better.
Email is sort of like a PM, not all benefit from it.

[Y-Blockhead]

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Originally Posted by Curtis in MA

I think I like posting questions here better.
Email is sort of like a PM, not all benefit from it.

Curtis, That was my first thought and I am in total agreement with you. For a personalized answer this is great but it does nothing to help other Model A pilots.

[Eccentric Old Guy]

Originally Posted by Y-Blockhead

Curtis, That was my first thought and I am in total agreement with you. For a personalized answer this is great but it does nothing to help other Model A pilots.

I agree with getting answers right here on this forum, but Shinn's team of experts is just one more resource available to us.....especially when the experts here don't always agree with the solutions. I've gotten answers to my questions on this forum, and it's my first choice because the responses are quick, but having other options is a good thing.....I think most of us can agree with that....

eog

[Brentwood Bob]

Why not share the advice from the MAFCA experts here to pass on what was learned, applied, and the final results?

[Bob C]

Maybe set up a web site where the question and answers could be posted for all to see.

[baba]

[email protected]
I think Bob C's idea is great.
I have sent an email asking about a website as Bob suggested.

[Oldbluoval]

Sorry folks, YouTube posts are much better than words posted anywhere whether Model A or whatever. “Picture worth a thousand words “!?
Visuals are rather absolute and can be revisited.
Folks often call me to “talk about something” or “is this correct”….next thing I tell them is send me pics and I’ll try . What one says isn’t what another hears.
Just imho

[Ruth]

Originally Posted by Oldbluoval

Sorry folks, YouTube posts are much better than words posted anywhere whether Model A or whatever. “Picture worth a thousand words “!?
Visuals are rather absolute and can be revisited.
Folks often call me to “talk about something” or “is this correct”….next thing I tell them is send me pics and I’ll try . What one says isn’t what another hears.
Just imho

I agree, to a point. I have seen and /or heard some "advice on youtube videos that is incorrect and should not be done.

[P.S.]

One of the subscribers sent me a link to this and asked for my response.

I'm flattered that this is even worthy of a thread here. Thank you.

I have no desire to compete with this or any other web forum. I am only trying to help those who are already reaching out to me for help via email. Consider it an additional resource, not a competing one, please.

[Leyland]

I think this is another great avenue to help others get the help they need. Not everyone likes the forums and search feature. I’ve watched most of Pauls videos, and they have helped me a great deal this winter, even my wife enjoys his humour!

An idea for Paul and the gang, maybe there is an opportunity to have a sticky thread in this forum where the emailed questions, and the response/answers, could be posted for others information. This way they could be searched for the knowledge sharing for those using this forum also

[Big hammer]

Like what has been said, a picture is worth a thousand words! A video is like a thousand pictures! P.S. thanks for your time making your videos!! I watched a u-tube when I haven’t done something just to get an idea of what I’am in for, yes sometimes I find easier ways but with out a video I might not even try working on a issue.

[baba]

I got an answer from Paul and he said the MACA site has or will have a section set aside for the Q and A.

[shew01]

Originally Posted by Big hammer

Like what has been said, a picture is worth a thousand words! A video is like a thousand pictures! P.S. thanks for your time making your videos!! I watched a u-tube when I haven’t done something just to get an idea of what I’am in for, yes sometimes I find easier ways but with out a video I might not even try working on a issue.

Agreed. Well said.


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[P.S.]

The unique questions and answers will appear on the MAFCA website. We added Tom Jeanes and Dave Vestal to the team yesterday. More experts whom you haven't heard from in a while are being added. However, I suspect my dad will be the rock star of the group. He is turning 92.

[McMimmcs]

Originally Posted by Y-Blockhead

Curtis, That was my first thought and I am in total agreement with you. For a personalized answer this is great but it does nothing to help other Model A pilots.

I agree with you. At the present time I only go to a book when necessary because the barn is so convenient.

[TomInCologne]

Don't be so negative guys, i personally learned a lot from Pauls Videos and they became part of my everyday life, just listening to them running in the background whilst driving through germany. I am pretty sure that the new format will be something where you can learn from... maybe not you personally, but somebody else.


I am looking forward to it...

[Synchro909]

I'd like to know how much experience these guys have had with RHD cars. None, I suspect.
I hope they don't use terms like "driver's side" and passenger's side". If we assemble an engine in accordance with Les Andrew's instructions, it wouldn't last to the end of the driveway. The connecting rods would be on backwards. There are MANY similar errors in books and vendor's instructions. I hope these guys are more on the ball.

[supergnat]

I often use the search tool on this website to get answers to questions others have already asked. Then if I need more detail or more help I can post a better question with some background knowledge. I do find that helpful. I will certainly check-out Pauls videos too (pictures are very helpful to me).

[Oldbluoval]

Good on using the search tool
You’re likely one of about 2%
Sometimes the redundancy of questions here amazes me!!

[Raaf]

Paul - thanks for everything you do.

This is just another great resource for A owners. I suspect you'll also see some questions that could serve as topics for future videos.

[JKY]

Originally Posted by Raaf

Paul - thanks for everything you do.

This is just another great resource for A owners. I suspect you'll also see some questions that could serve as topics for future videos.

So true. Thanks a lot Paul.

[ursus]

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I wish that something like Paul Shinn's videos were available when I got into Model A's 40 years ago. I cringe when I recall some of the advice I was given by so many "experts" years ago.

[Ruth]

Originally Posted by Oldbluoval

Good on using the search tool
You’re likely one of about 2%
Sometimes the redundancy of questions here amazes me!!

I agree. And the redundancy of the answers in the same thread!

[baba]

Pauls videos are solid gold IMHO. Good no nonsense advice, carefully explained with no BS. I watch dthe one on installing a new wiring harness before I did mine and It gave me the confidence to tackle the job. Utube is my friend, especially since there is no model a club in my area.

[Smooth_One]

Paul and his wife (Model T) seam like very nice people. He has a few A’s and sounds like his father has had them over the years as well.
I believe he gets his information correct before he posts his videos.

[Smooth_One]

Originally Posted by P.S.

One of the subscribers sent me a link to this and asked for my response.

I'm flattered that this is even worthy of a thread here. Thank you.

I have no desire to compete with this or any other web forum. I am only trying to help those who are already reaching out to me for help via email. Consider it an additional resource, not a competing one, please.

I am a subscriber to your channel Paul. Great light hearted content you and
Model-T put out! Please keep the videos coming! I hope your health has improved as well. God Bless.

[Chip2020]

Hi Paul,

I have a 1931 Model "A" that is running with a Model "B" engine. Currently, the car has a bored out "A" intake manifold with a gravity fed '32-'34 Model "B" carburetor. The hole for the Model "B" fuel pump is covered with a "block off plate".

My question is the feasibility of removing the "block off plate" (the camshaft has the proper lobe for the fuel pump operating lever) and installing a freshly rebuilt Model "B" fuel pump to provide fuel to the Model "B" carburetor, since the "B" carb was designed to be used that way.

My concern is that in 1932, a Ford Model "B" had the gas tank located in the rear of the car, at a level lower than the carburetor, so a fuel pump was mandatory. But my Model "A" has the gas tank located in the stock position, higher than the level of the carburetor (and the proposed fuel pump). This configuration would allow gravity to provide some fuel pressure (maybe 0.5 psi) to the inlet side of the fuel pump, which is not exactly what the Model "B" was designed for.

The fact that fuel would probably push through the pump when the engine is off, should not pose a huge problem, although I would have to install a fuel cut-off valve after the pump and before the carburetor. Also, I would no longer be able to run the carburetor empty when I shut the car down for an extended period of time (cut-off valve could never be closed while engine is running).

So, several questions still remain:

1) Would the gravity feed fuel pressure applied to the inlet side of the mechanical fuel pump cause damage to the pump itself and/or the carburetor due to over pressurization? If so, is there a way to mitigate this issue?

2) Are there other problems with this fuel system configuration that I may not have considered?

3) Are there any alternative methods of getting higher fuel pressure to the Model "B" carburetor (or eventually a downdraft carburetor) that do not involve installing an electric fuel pump and regulator?

Since I have a Model "B" engine and already own a well-functioning mechanical fuel pump that will fit it, I would prefer the mechanical option over the electric one.

Thanks Paul. With your knowledge and experience, I'm hoping that you can provide answers to my questions as well as some valuable insight into my proposed fuel system conversion. -Chip

[Synchro909]

Still nothing to suggest there is the slightest grain of knowledge anywhere in Paul's group about right hand drive cars. Disappointing!

[Brentwood Bob]

I know you drive on the wrong side of the road.

[dmar836]

Some of you guys would complain if they hung you with a new rope!
Weird statement there. We might just as well say that you have no knowledge about LHD cars.

How about "be the change you want to see." Why not start a section for RHD cars and share that mysterious info instead of criticizing those of us who don't have one - therefore don't need to know about them. I've never even driven one. It's not a space shuttle in comparison to LHD cars.
I imagine we could use info from Paul, here, or wherever and apply that to a RHD Model A.
D

[w.michael]

Chip,
I am certainly not Paul, but I can partially answer your questions. I have a 1929-ish Speedster with the Model A gas tank in the stock location, a gas shutoff valve inside the cabin in the stock location, and a Model B engine with a B fuel pump in the stock location. Unlike your car, I do have downdraft carburetor of unknown ancestry.
1. The gravity fed fueling pressure to the inlet side of the fuel pump does not present any problem. With a full tank, the fuel level in the tank is higher than the carb bowl, but fuel does not push through.
2. I don’t think you need a shut off valve between the pump and the carb. The shut off valve in the stock location is sufficient.
3. With a down draft carb, I think either the stock fuel pump or an electric pump are the reasonable options. Like you, I favor the mechanical pump.

BUT I don’t think you need any pump with your current set up. Unless your engine is actually sucking the carburetor bowl dry, which isn’t likely, what is the problem? I think gravity will always keep sufficient fuel in the bowl.

I would not do anything until and unless you install a downdraft intake manifold and a downdraft carb. At that point, install your stock B fuel pump. That’s all you need to do.

W. Michael

[Synchro909]

Originally Posted by dmar836

Some of you guys would complain if they hung you with a new rope!
Weird statement there. We might just as well say that you have no knowledge about LHD cars.I'm quite sure RHD owners and drivers have a better knowledge of LHD cars than vice versa.

How about "be the change you want to see." Why not start a section for RHD cars and share that mysterious info What say you, Ryan?instead of criticizing those of us who don't have one - therefore don't need to know about them. I've never even driven one. My point exactly. There is VERY little acknowledgement that they even exist on the forums, in the likes of Les Andrews' books or by the US vendors.It's not a space shuttle in comparison to LHD cars.
I imagine we could use info from Paul, here, or wherever and apply that to a RHD Model A.That is true enough but there is NOTHING specific to RHD. A few years ago, I asked a well known vendor if they would honour a warrantee claim for damage to an engine that was assembled in accordance with their instructions. I was referring to the orientation of the connecting rods when they are fitted. Their instructions said that the dippers face the passenger side. If someone in a RHD country did as they said, the engine would be ruined in very short time, hence a warranty claim. I didn't receive a reply but I did notice that they changed the wording of their instructions some time later.
D

Off the cuff response in red.

[dmar836]

Agreed, but it isn't a competition.

[mass A man]

Paul Shinn's videos are very well produced and very interesting. A real Model A guy and decent fellow. (No, I'm not his brother)...

[Chip2020]

Originally Posted by w.michael

Chip,
I am certainly not Paul, but I can partially answer your questions. I have a 1929-ish Speedster with the Model A gas tank in the stock location, a gas shutoff valve inside the cabin in the stock location, and a Model B engine with a B fuel pump in the stock location. Unlike your car, I do have downdraft carburetor of unknown ancestry.
1. The gravity fed fueling pressure to the inlet side of the fuel pump does not present any problem. With a full tank, the fuel level in the tank is higher than the carb bowl, but fuel does not push through.
2. I don’t think you need a shut off valve between the pump and the carb. The shut off valve in the stock location is sufficient.
3. With a down draft carb, I think either the stock fuel pump or an electric pump are the reasonable options. Like you, I favor the mechanical pump.

BUT I don’t think you need any pump with your current set up. Unless your engine is actually sucking the carburetor bowl dry, which isn’t likely, what is the problem? I think gravity will always keep sufficient fuel in the bowl.

I would not do anything until and unless you install a downdraft intake manifold and a downdraft carb. At that point, install your stock B fuel pump. That’s all you need to do.

W. Michael

Thanks W. Michael,

Your suggestion makes a lot of sense. Much appreciated.

- Chip

[Synchro909]

IMO, PS has a knack of combining entertainment with useful information for Model A owners.

[TomInCologne]

Originally Posted by Synchro909

IMO, PS has a knack of combining entertainment with useful information for Model A owners.

and? what's bad about that?


I, for myself, can say that Paul has done a lot for getting me interested in Model As and has prepared me a great deal.


Thank you, Paul!

[trulyvintage]

I met Paul and his wife last
Spring when he recommended
me to transport “ The General “
to it’s new owner back East.

He is knowledgable - courteous
and highly respected in
The Model A Family.

Anyone interested in Model A’s
should subscribe to his YouTube channel.

The General ….

@ https://youtu.be/ENmvRdIJMh8?si=t-V2njyHmudu2WZT





Jim

[P.S.]

Thank you for the love! Hey, Just doing my part to help turn around the trend of the hobby shrinking or dying. I am merely a servant with undefiled enthusiasm. No ego, no gatekeeping, just a guy trying to help another guy.

Was sure a pleasure to meet Jim and see his custom hauler setup. I can see why he has so many fans.

[trulyvintage]

Hi Paul

I am leaving Florida for Oklahoma
to provide coverage on social media
for the 34th Spring Chickasha
Pre War Swap Meet on
March 15th & 16th.




Turning The Wheel - Giving Back.

You upload videos to YouTube
for the good of the hobby.

Your manner is direct.

You extend a hand in friendship
not with your palm up to
have it greased.

I hope we meet again and
perhaps next time I can buy
a meal for you and your wife.

Hopefully I will also be able
to cover The Spring Pre War
Swap Meet at Famoso Speedway
just outside Bakersfield in May.

My friend Jim Holguin in Tulare
was asked to manage the entire
event by the owners and set aside
a section for Pre War Vendors.





Stay healthy & busy ….


Jim

[rickblack]

Many of the questions answered by [email protected]
appear in The Restorer magazine on the Tech Q&A page
so that all can see the questions and answers.

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I too have Paul to thank for getting me interested in Model A's... and Model T's as a matter of fact. He did a video comparing the two cars. I find his videos easy to relate to. Now, I just need to get my Son interested in these old relics so I can have someone to pass them down to. Last time I checked, I can't take them with me, but I'll keep checking.

[Synchro909]

Originally Posted by stickshift

I too have Paul to thank for getting me interested in Model A's... and Model T's as a matter of fact. He did a video comparing the two cars. I find his videos easy to relate to. Now, I just need to get my Son interested in these old relics so I can have someone to pass them down to. Last time I checked, I can't take them with me, but I'll keep checking.

My father used to say "They don't put pockets in shrouds!"

[stickshift]

Originally Posted by Synchro909

My father used to say "They don't put pockets in shrouds!"

True, but those gold streets sound inviting...and smoooooth!

[oldskoolcat]

I find the questions and answers posted here to be very helpful as I slowly work on my two 28 phaetons. But I really like Paul's videos as well. As someone has already noted, it is good to actually see how something is done as opposed to read how it is done! I have also quite liked Tina and Paul's "Q&A of the day" videos on her channel. Short, interesting, and you just about always learn something!

[ModelA29]

Originally Posted by oldskoolcat

....liked Tina and Paul's "Q&A of the day" videos on her channel.

All we need to do is get her one of those $10 Bluetooth microphones so we can hear her.



https://www.amazon.com/Microphone-Pl...a433c8b43529f2

[Synchro909]

Originally Posted by stickshift

True, but those gold streets sound inviting...and smoooooth!

My wife says she is taking her credit card with her just in case the shops are open!