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05-19-2020, 06:43 PM | #1 |
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Rebuilt Engine Tag - Thought I'd Share
Hey, gang!
After a long pause (like, 5 years) I'm back to rebuilding my truck. The engine was previously rebuilt, and I thought I'd share this tag (off the block) with you. http://modela.burke.tv/Pics/20200222/EngineTag1.jpg I can't find any good serial numbers off the block - looks like they've been scraped off |
05-19-2020, 07:30 PM | #2 |
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Re: Rebuilt Engine Tag - Thought I'd Share
This is interesting - I have never seen anything pike it. I know Ford had replacement engines that many dealers had lying around (I have seen a few of these NOS ones). Would it have been more cost effective to rebuild the engine or give the owner a new one at the time?
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05-19-2020, 08:51 PM | #3 |
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Re: Rebuilt Engine Tag - Thought I'd Share
I have a Model A engine that I was told by a knowledgeable Model A guru it was likely produced as a Service Replacement block. He said the serial number indicated it was produced somewhere around 1937-38 for that purpose. Not sure if this information is 100 % correct, but interesting.
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05-19-2020, 09:20 PM | #4 |
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Re: Rebuilt Engine Tag - Thought I'd Share
Looks like around April 1937.
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05-19-2020, 10:14 PM | #5 |
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Ford had a number of authorized rebuilders around the country for many years-I haven't kept up to know if they still do. They rebuilt anything that was rebuildable: engines, transmissions, starters, generators, distributors, fuel pumps, water pumps, carburetors and more. These were all available at your local Ford dealer. Each part had a decal that looked like a blue ribbon with the words something like "Ford Authorized Rebuilder". Plus engines had a metal tag that usually listed cylinder overbore size and crankshaft undersize. These parts were very common.
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05-20-2020, 07:58 AM | #6 |
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05-20-2020, 08:46 AM | #7 |
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Re: Rebuilt Engine Tag - Thought I'd Share
I am running a factory replacement motor with a number that indicates it was built in 1934
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05-20-2020, 02:14 PM | #8 |
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From 40 deluxe ... Ford had a number of authorized rebuilders around the country for many years-I haven't kept up to know if they still do. They rebuilt anything that was rebuildable: engines, transmissions, starters, generators, distributors, fuel pumps, water pumps, carburetors and more. These were all available at your local Ford dealer. Each part had a decal that looked like a blue ribbon with the words something like "Ford Authorized Rebuilder". Plus engines had a metal tag that usually listed cylinder overbore size and crankshaft undersize. These parts were very common.
These authorized re-builders is where the "BB" cranks came from. They installed the pressed-on counterweights. |
05-20-2020, 02:49 PM | #9 |
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Has anyone had a BB crankshaft ground RECENTLY?
How much extra do they charge to remove and replace the weights? |
05-20-2020, 05:15 PM | #10 |
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Why would you remove the weights unless they overhang the journal.? I haven't seen one of those cranks to know what the weights are like but if they don't overhang, leave them alone.
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05-20-2020, 05:58 PM | #11 |
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They do overhang, takes the fun right out of regrinding one.
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05-21-2020, 10:49 PM | #12 |
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Hello, I recall a friend in the 1970s that had a Model A Truck with a W.E.Smith Erie Pa authorized Ford rebuilder metal tag riveted on block near the oil fill . I believe it had sizes that it was bored to on it .
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05-22-2020, 07:09 AM | #13 |
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My 29 CC pickup had a RED engine with ABSOLUTELY no number. Never had and the number pad shows the sand graining of the casting process.
As the truck came to me with 143K miles on the odometer and the red engine was worn out this agrees with a 2nd engine probably from Sears or possibly another aftermarket source. EVERYTHING was painted red - water pump, generator (long type but with "holes" in the back-plate) starter, head. Distributor was black. But that may be original or at least Ford stock from whenever. Joe K
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05-22-2020, 08:34 AM | #14 |
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Joe, we all know that a red engine automatically adds 10HP!
But I thought that all replacement engines did not have serial numbers, they were blank. Does anyone have proof of this statement? |
05-22-2020, 09:07 AM | #15 |
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I have seen several Fred Jones Rebuild tags.
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05-22-2020, 09:11 AM | #16 |
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Yes, ...and for the record, removing weights, straightening the crank, grinding journals, reinstalling weights, straightening/checking the shaft again, -and balancing are all a part of refurbishing a BB crankshaft.
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05-22-2020, 06:16 PM | #17 |
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Re: Rebuilt Engine Tag - Thought I'd Share
Update.
While painting the block, I found a matching serial number (34334) stamped just below the head, near the front. Pictures here: Serial Number Close-up |
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