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Old 01-10-2016, 01:01 PM   #1
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Default Where to find Tudor kick panels?

Hey Guys, my '30 Tudor has the original kick panels but they are pretty chewed up along the bottoms. I have been hunting for a new set, but haven't had luck- anyone know who sells them, or has a set for sale?

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Mr. jchochole...try any of these guys:

UPHOLSTERY
1. www.LeBaronBonney.com LeBaron Bonney (Massachusetts)
2. www.cartoucheupholstery.com Cartouche (New York)
3. www.classtique.info Classtique Upholstery (Minnesotta)
4. No known website: Bill Sturm Upholstery (920)-739-0616 (Wisconsin)
5. No known website: Lee Chatterton (501) 525-8727 (Arkansas)

Don't throw your originals away as some guys do...someone may want them an may be able to restore them depending on how bad they really are.

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Default Re: Where to find Tudor kick panels?

Thanks Steve- the bottoms are delaminating due to moisture and shoes scuffing them getting in and out (or little friends nibbling) so I'll hang onto them just in case.
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Thanks Steve- the bottoms are delaminating due to moisture and shoes scuffing them getting in and out (or little friends nibbling) so I'll hang onto them just in case.
You would be surrprised what some inovative "purist restorer" would do to try to restore original panels.

Can you post a photo of them?

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Also save original material samples for displays at the Model A museum, or for someone saving sample of original materials, such as Gretchen Minners was doing.
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Use the originals for patterns and make some yourself. This is a good chance to get creative and not do any harm that is hard to undo.
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If it is a driver, use the old ones as a pattern and make them.
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If it is a driver, use the old ones as a pattern and make them.
What do you use to make them? Is there a specific grade/thickness of card? Are they spray painted?
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You can get upholstery cardboard and cover (glued on) it with black vinyl (sewing area in walmart etc.), this what the professional shops are doing. The problem with the cardboard available is that after time and moisture it gets wavey. I have used 1/8" plywood before and 1/8" insulation board before and both worked and both were able to be sewn through if you decide to put a binding like the original
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I used 1/8" hardboard from Home Depot. Can't sew through, but it takes glue very well. I just painted mine.
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Jwilli-
Just for clarity – what did you mean by hardboard? Are you talking about a thin sheet of plywood, or something else? What do you glue over the top – just black vinyl?
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Just for clarity what did you mean by hardboard? Are you talking about a thin sheet of plywood, or something else? What do you glue over the top just black vinyl?
It is a tempered hardboard. (composite material) not wood. Smooth on one side and textured on the other. Log on to Home Depot and put hardboard in the search box. 1/8" x 4' x 8' is $7.98 in Ga.

I just sprayed mine black. Good for a driver, not for a show car.
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Here are the condition of my '30 originals.
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Contact lebaron Bonney, they sell the kick panels ready to go and be done with it. A very simple easy quality fix..if money is an issue then make something out of cardboard and cover it with some sort of vinyl... It's a matter of what your after
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Were kick panels originally matched to exterior paint colour? On all body styles? This appears to be so for my survivor E28 Canadian built Australian assembled phaeton.


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No, see the Judging Standards book. The 1928 upholstery was all one color, and all the 1929's had another color. Basically brown textured fabric for 1928 and blueish for 1929. I wish someone still made the correct textured cardboard panels, rather than having to glue on fabric.
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No, see the Judging Standards book. The 1928 upholstery was all one color, and all the 1929's had another color. Basically brown textured fabric for 1928 and blueish for 1929. I wish someone still made the correct textured cardboard panels, rather than having to glue on fabric.
Not wanting to hijack the thread (sorry, jchochole), but are you referring to closed cars only, or all body styles, Tom?

I've believe my door cards and kick panels to be original. The photos show my E28 phaeton's original blue/green paint (see top edge of door where pin striping remains) and the interior (door and kick panel). I know the light doesn't help to distinguish the colours too well, but it looks like a matching colour combo to me - i.e. the interior trim is also green. This is a Canadian built, Aussie assembled car - maybe things were different here?
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Hooga, you upholstery and panels are not original according to US built Model A open cars. That's all I was referring to when I described the colors of the panels and upholstery.

I know Marco has posted excellent pictures of open car upholstery, so you can see the patterns and colors.

Actually this thread is about a Tudor, so this part should be a new thread.
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. . . Actually this thread is about a Tudor, so this part should be a new thread.
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No, see the Judging Standards book. The 1928 upholstery was all one color, and all the 1929's had another color. Basically brown textured fabric for 1928 and blueish for 1929. I wish someone still made the correct textured cardboard panels, rather than having to glue on fabric.
Tom,

One would think that with all this technology today, a metal roller could be etched ($$$$$$$$$$) with the same pattern as the cardboard panels thus roll the panels producing the etching then spray paint the cardboard. I have not seen any originals of "textured fabric"...only cardboard with either the etchings on the board when the paint was applied or when the paint was applied, it was applied to show the texture in the paint on the flat surface.

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