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01-07-2018, 06:50 PM | #1 |
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Rear main oil return tube
I broke one off , flipping the engine around while installing pistons. It was tacked in place. I was able to get the broken threaded piece out easily. I went to see if I had some 5/16” ones on old caps. Found two with a ball check valve. Anyone know the “theory “ behind this??
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01-07-2018, 06:53 PM | #2 |
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They were for grain trucks. They use to pick the front of the trucks up in the air, to dump the grain. The ball kept the oil from running out of the engine.
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01-07-2018, 07:31 PM | #3 |
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Do not use 5/16 ones. If that is the size, bore to accept the newer 3/8's.
Look for other posts on the barn on how to do the complete job. I have to leave right now. Herm. |
01-07-2018, 11:06 PM | #4 |
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Page 306 in the service bulletins. Thanks
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I also change them to 3/8 Ford changed them to 3/8 because 5/16 is to small. |
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3/8" gives 20% more flow than 5/16", FWIW.
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I realize that the tube thread (3/8) is peculiar. Other than not having right die, is there anything that you can think of , why a guy cannot make one ? I just got a B block without the drain tube....and as things go last few years, can not locate much when needed/wanted in stuff pile ! |
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Here is what I do ...There is more to it than 3/8 . Its the number of threads per inch if you need to fit a replacement drain tube to a 3/8 hole . I use a 3/8 by 32 threads per inch tap . This works with the drain tube threads that most model A parts venders handle. This is probably an uncommon tap . I got mine from Kodiak cutting tools www.amazon.com or www.kodiakcuttingtools.com . Brattons lists the drain tubes on page 44 and yes I have performed this proceduer many times .
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Purdy is probably correct about the 3/8 by 32 but I have found George Miller's suggestion works for me.
I use a 1/8" pipe thread tap and it always works. I spot weld the 3/8"steel pipe to the cap with stainless wire and find it holds well. I also drill out the oil passage in the cap to 3/8" when doing this conversion. Be careful, go slow, when the tip of the drill bit nears the back of the cap as the bit can bind in the grooves. The tapped hole is not 90 degrees to the parting line of the cap. I built a jig from a cut-off of 10" structural "C" channel to position the cap to achieve the correct angle. If you place a 3/16" spacer under the front edge of cap with the rear of the cap on the bed of your drill press, the angle of the pipe will be correct. I use a 5/16" drill to prepare the cap for the 1/8" pipe thread tap and while the cap is in the jig, I use the drill press to start the tap to achieve alignment. Photos below: This jig is used for multiple functions...so ignore the other holes and knotches. The bottom row of photos shows the procedure to enlarge the oil passage. Remove galley plug with a punch...Drill passage with a 3/8" bit....continue drilling but don't drill out the back side. The last photo shows where to stop. Good Day! Last edited by Dave in MN; 01-12-2018 at 10:14 PM. Reason: Add photos |
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very interesting. I have to pull the pan on my speedster as the oil plug is loose and just spins. while its out I think ill drop the rear main and do this upgrade
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Dave is right on. I also drill the oil passage also very important. You never know what you are going to find in that hole. Plus it fixes the tube from blocking the oil flow through the cap, if it is screwed in to far. |
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drill the oil passage? sorry maybe a dumb question. never had one apart yet. which passage are you drilling out and cleaning?
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01-12-2018, 06:09 PM | #24 |
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photos pleas that would be great
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01-17-2018, 01:42 AM | #26 |
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No, the stock pump gives all the oil the engine can use, and then some.
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01-17-2018, 12:18 PM | #28 |
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ok I see I think now drill out the length ways passage aswell to a larger size ive not had an A apart yet so thanks this helps lots. is that a lead or babbet cap that goes back on the end?
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01-17-2018, 10:20 PM | #30 |
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Steel galley plug.
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01-17-2018, 11:47 PM | #31 |
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ok and these plugs are available through regular supplyers ?
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01-18-2018, 08:49 AM | #32 |
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Save the plug when you remove it; they can be re-used. If it is a loose fit, place the plug on an anvil and strike it with a hammer. The strike will flatten it and expand it at the same time.
New plugs are available at some suppliers. Snyder's has them. A-6327-PL $1.00 / ea. Last edited by Dave in MN; 01-18-2018 at 09:04 AM. |
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thanks very much
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