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Old 06-04-2017, 09:25 AM   #1
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Default Removing ridge from cylinders

It appears that I must have steel sleeves in my 1937 flathead. My ridge reamer will not cut the ridge. Any suggestions on how to remove the ridge to get the pistons out? thanks
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Old 06-04-2017, 10:41 AM   #2
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Just wondering why your ridge reamer won't do the job?
Can you post a photo of your reamer and ridge set up?
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Old 06-04-2017, 12:01 PM   #3
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Just wondering why your ridge reamer won't do the job?
Can you post a photo of your reamer and ridge set up?
I have ordered a new carbide cutter for the reamer but haven't received it. Thanks
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Old 06-04-2017, 12:12 PM   #4
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The sleeves are too hard for a ridge reamer.
I have to ask: If you have ridges, why are you worried about removing them? It's obvious the bores are worn too far to simply replace rings and machine work is necessary.
If you are attempting to salvage the pistons from an otherwise poor block, use a small die grinder to cut away the ridges.
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Old 06-04-2017, 12:59 PM   #5
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What you have in your hand is a HONE,,,what ever the package says.
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Old 06-04-2017, 02:47 PM   #6
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Looks like a ridge reamer to me?
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Old 06-04-2017, 02:55 PM   #7
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Me to. Not a hone.
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Old 06-04-2017, 03:28 PM   #8
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OK,,,,,,,,,,never seen one like that,,,
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Old 06-04-2017, 03:52 PM   #9
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I haven't used one in years . . . and don't see much of a purpose as when the cylinder is that worn, I'll rebore it to a larger size . . . or put new sleeves in it. Have you measured the bores to figure out how worn they are?
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Old 06-04-2017, 04:47 PM   #10
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Just a guess , he wants to resleeve and reuse Pistons . No sense in busting up some Pistons that may have a new home .
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Old 06-04-2017, 05:39 PM   #11
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If sleeves are that worn it is hard to believe the pistons are usable.
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Old 06-04-2017, 08:48 PM   #12
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At the very least, the ring lands will be worn.
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Old 06-04-2017, 09:02 PM   #13
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Steel sleeves and aluminum pistons. Which is going to wear the most?
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Old 06-04-2017, 09:28 PM   #14
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V12Bill>>>Steel sleeves and aluminum pistons. Which is going to wear the most>>>

Hmmm? Sounds like a trick question. I'll guess the sleeves the most. The pistons least. And the rings in between. Did I guess right? 8^) Jack E/NJ
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If sleeves are that worn it is hard to believe the pistons are usable.
x2.

Of course, from what I read on the Barn and other forums, most guys don't really "rebuild", at least not correctly.
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I believe the pistons used with the steel liners were also steel.
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Default Re: Removing ridge from cylinders

I looked at the pictures that were posted earlier - pretty heavy ridge is visible. The sleeves look like the ole' "tin can sleeves" that Ford would put in many of their early 24 stud - 221 cubic inch Ford engines (though I didn't know they did it back in 37 - maybe a later 'rebuild'???).

Me, I would look for a new set of sleeves and associated pistons/rings . . . and rebuild it to tip-top shape. With that said, I'm not trying to spend your money - just talking about the best way to do the job.

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Old 06-05-2017, 09:09 AM   #18
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Go borrow one from Autozone and see it will do the job.
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Remove sleeves and bore to 239 CID
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Remove sleeves and bore to 239 CID
I've done that and wow, well worth it. And, from my experience I got a stronger engine with less of an investment than R&R sleeves.
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Old 06-05-2017, 12:58 PM   #21
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Those tin can sleeves were designed to be replaced at each overhaul just like a tractor engine. I imagine quite a few Ford dealerships in larger communities had all the stuff to do that job. There may have been overhaul kits available for them as well.

A person may be able to find some NOS tin can sleeves out there but you also have to have the installation tooling. Not so many folks have that stuff these days. Even if you freeze the sleeves, they usually won't go all the way in. I'd say someone who really wanted to put those type sleeves back in there could do it but it will take some effort just to get the stuff together and it won't be cheap. I don't mind using sleeves in the old Ford tractors but they use a thicker wall sleeve and the tooling is available for them. Kits are readily available too.

It would be a lot easier to get them out of there and get the .083" OS P/N E120-8 Egge pistons.
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