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Keoki808 · 09-27-2013, 02:35 PM

Hi! Guys, jus wonderin how much I could get for my 1930 Phaeton?
"All ORIGINAL car in MINT condition, complete with Horseless Carriage Plates. Starts and drives like a dream, no issues cosmetically or mechanically! The BEST Model A in the State".
THANKS for your response!

Skrain · 09-27-2013, 02:53 PM

I saw a dual Cowl Phaeton on E-bay a couple of days ago with bidding somewhere around $23.000...and it wasn't done!

1931 flamingo · 09-27-2013, 02:55 PM

Very nice looking. What's going to kill any deal, unless local, is shipping to the states.
JMO
Paul in CT

3340 · 09-27-2013, 02:55 PM

I Don't Know What It Will Fetch, But It Sure Looks To Be A Beautiful Car. Good Luck

newshirt · 09-27-2013, 03:05 PM

Nice car! I'd love to own it.

But don't write "all original" when it's clearly not. That reduces the credibility of the phrase. But still... very nice car!

Brother Hesekiel · 09-27-2013, 04:23 PM

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Hard to believe that this is 33 year-old original paint, but if you say it is, who am I to argue . . .

700rpm · 09-27-2013, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skrain

I saw a dual Cowl Phaeton on E-bay a couple of days ago with bidding somewhere around $23.000...and it wasn't done!

It wasn't a "dual cowl" either.

1965 Mustang · 09-27-2013, 10:03 PM

Beautiful car... But to talk semantics.... If your car has been restored, it is not Mint.

It can be restored to a mint like state. But something is only mint once. Kind of like virginity -once you lose it, it is gone.

Just my 2 cents worth....and a strict definition of the word Mint.

tbirdtbird · 09-27-2013, 10:10 PM

Regarding post #2, ? was there ever a Model A dual cowl touring? Not that I am aware of....

700rpm · 09-27-2013, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tbirdtbird

Regarding post #2, ? was there ever a Model A dual cowl touring? Not that I am aware of....

Edsel had the only one I know of.

Arlen · 09-28-2013, 02:23 AM

700rpm beat me to it. Edsel's was dual cowl. I'm willing to bet somewhere back then there was a company making aftermarket mount on windshields though.

Arlen · 09-28-2013, 02:28 AM

To answer your original question, 30-31 phaetons are rarer. I would suggest in the $22,000 to $30,000 range. Just what I see in hemmings.

dave in australia · 09-28-2013, 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tbirdtbird

Regarding post #2, ? was there ever a Model A dual cowl touring? Not that I am aware of....

Wasn't there some dual cowl bodies built in Germany or somewhere else in Europe?

pooch · 09-28-2013, 02:52 AM

I wish the trimmer or owner would have taken more care of the height of the back window.

Ruins the roof from the back view.

Tom Wesenberg · 09-28-2013, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by pooch

I wish the trimmer or owner would have taken more care of the height of the back window.

Ruins the roof from the back view.

Yep, that's the first thing I noticed also.

tbirdtbird · 09-28-2013, 09:16 AM

some of them are going for 50-60K

Keoki808 · 09-29-2013, 03:19 AM

EVERYONE!! THANKS for ALL your response! your replies have all been a great help!!

Bob-A · 09-29-2013, 05:35 AM

Dual cowl Model-A Ford phaetons? Yes, I've seen a few pictures of custon made ones. The one (actually two people have listed their
standard phaetons as dual cowl) on eBay had only an accessory windshield for the rear seat with no cowl. The cowl on a Model-A is
essentially the gas tank forward of the windshield. A dual cowl phaeton
has a secondary cowl over the back seat floor area with a windshield
attached to it. In order for the back seat riders to inter or exit. The cowl has to be lifted up as it is attached via a hinge to the top of the front seat metal backing. The rear doors are also blocked by the dual cowl when the cowl is in the lowered position. Most dual cowl phaetons were
built by the high end cars (Duseneburg, Packard, Lincoln, Cadillac, etc.) of
the the late 20's and early 30's. There is a FordBarner who has a period
pic of a custom "A" dual cowl phaeton as his avatar. And, I believe a large Ford "A" dealership in California had a '29 phaeton customized with the addition of a back seat cowl/windshield for a large new car show in 1929. Offhand I'm not so sure the Edsel phaeton was a true dual cowl. More
of a "sport" phaeton with a thin metal cover behind the front seat back.
I don't have a pic of it handy so this is just a guess.

Bob-A

09-27-2013, 02:55 PM	#3
1931 flamingo Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: new britain,ct 06052 Posts: 9,390	Re: what would it be worth sellin? Very nice looking. What's going to kill any deal, unless local, is shipping to the states. JMO Paul in CT

09-27-2013, 02:55 PM	#4
3340 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: toledo ohio Posts: 393	Re: what would it be worth sellin? I Don't Know What It Will Fetch, But It Sure Looks To Be A Beautiful Car. Good Luck

09-27-2013, 03:05 PM	#5
newshirt Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 868	Re: what would it be worth sellin? Nice car! I'd love to own it. But don't write "all original" when it's clearly not. That reduces the credibility of the phrase. But still... very nice car! __________________ Ray White

09-27-2013, 04:23 PM	#6
Brother Hesekiel Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: San Buenaventura, Calif. Posts: 362	Re: what would it be worth sellin? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Hard to believe that this is 33 year-old original paint, but if you say it is, who am I to argue . . .

09-27-2013, 10:03 PM	#8
1965 Mustang Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Rochester WA Posts: 34	Re: what would it be worth sellin? Beautiful car... But to talk semantics.... If your car has been restored, it is not Mint. It can be restored to a mint like state. But something is only mint once. Kind of like virginity -once you lose it, it is gone. Just my 2 cents worth....and a strict definition of the word Mint.

09-27-2013, 02:53 PM	#2
Skrain Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Monticello, Kentucky Posts: 284	Re: what would it be worth sellin? I saw a dual Cowl Phaeton on E-bay a couple of days ago with bidding somewhere around $23.000...and it wasn't done! __________________ "They can make me grow older, but they CAN'T make me grow up!"

09-27-2013, 10:10 PM	#9
tbirdtbird BANNED Join Date: May 2012 Location: inside your RAM Posts: 3,134	Re: what would it be worth sellin? Regarding post #2, ? was there ever a Model A dual cowl touring? Not that I am aware of.... __________________ '31 180A

09-28-2013, 02:23 AM	#11
Arlen Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Dallas Posts: 524	Re: what would it be worth sellin? 700rpm beat me to it. Edsel's was dual cowl. I'm willing to bet somewhere back then there was a company making aftermarket mount on windshields though. __________________ DMAFC

09-28-2013, 02:28 AM	#12
Arlen Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Dallas Posts: 524	Re: what would it be worth sellin? To answer your original question, 30-31 phaetons are rarer. I would suggest in the $22,000 to $30,000 range. Just what I see in hemmings. __________________ DMAFC

09-28-2013, 02:52 AM	#14
pooch Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: South Coast NSW Australia Posts: 2,596	Re: what would it be worth sellin? I wish the trimmer or owner would have taken more care of the height of the back window. Ruins the roof from the back view.

09-28-2013, 09:16 AM	#16
tbirdtbird BANNED Join Date: May 2012 Location: inside your RAM Posts: 3,134	Re: what would it be worth sellin? some of them are going for 50-60K __________________ '31 180A

09-29-2013, 03:19 AM	#17
Keoki808 Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Aiea, Hawai'i 96701 Posts: 56	Re: what would it be worth sellin? EVERYONE!! THANKS for ALL your response! your replies have all been a great help!!

09-29-2013, 05:35 AM	#18
Bob-A Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Central FL, USA Posts: 1,138	Re: what would it be worth sellin? Dual cowl Model-A Ford phaetons? Yes, I've seen a few pictures of custon made ones. The one (actually two people have listed their standard phaetons as dual cowl) on eBay had only an accessory windshield for the rear seat with no cowl. The cowl on a Model-A is essentially the gas tank forward of the windshield. A dual cowl phaeton has a secondary cowl over the back seat floor area with a windshield attached to it. In order for the back seat riders to inter or exit. The cowl has to be lifted up as it is attached via a hinge to the top of the front seat metal backing. The rear doors are also blocked by the dual cowl when the cowl is in the lowered position. Most dual cowl phaetons were built by the high end cars (Duseneburg, Packard, Lincoln, Cadillac, etc.) of the the late 20's and early 30's. There is a FordBarner who has a period pic of a custom "A" dual cowl phaeton as his avatar. And, I believe a large Ford "A" dealership in California had a '29 phaeton customized with the addition of a back seat cowl/windshield for a large new car show in 1929. Offhand I'm not so sure the Edsel phaeton was a true dual cowl. More of a "sport" phaeton with a thin metal cover behind the front seat back. I don't have a pic of it handy so this is just a guess. Bob-A