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Old 08-27-2021, 09:30 AM   #1
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Default Lawsons 97's ( LC ) + vintage kits

I rec'd LC's 97 and did the repair...minor issue. LC mentioned he had some
old carb kits and could we do a trade.....sure I said. Does anyone remember P&D, Jiffy & Sorensen kits esp for Strombergs. Power valves, correct return springs, the tiny kicker spring, 6-32 t'plate screws on and on. PLUS the
delightful packaging..3x5x1 cardboard with superb graphics....as good as finding my barn find '32. Digging deeper some small card board tubes with
inlet needles and seats....old dried tags with Ford pt #'s.

I'm an old goof but it's part of what keeps me going.
We made an 'it's all good ' deal.
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I rec'd LC's 97 and did the repair...minor issue. LC mentioned he had some
old carb kits and could we do a trade.....sure I said. Does anyone remember P&D, Jiffy & Sorensen kits esp for Strombergs. Power valves, correct return springs, the tiny kicker spring, 6-32 t'plate screws on and on. PLUS the
delightful packaging..3x5x1 cardboard with superb graphics....as good as finding my barn find '32. Digging deeper some small card board tubes with
inlet needles and seats....old dried tags with Ford pt #'s.

I'm an old goof but it's part of what keeps me going.
We made an 'it's all good ' deal.
Charlie ny
Glad you liked the goodies I sent along with the carb. No telling how long I've had 'em. Glad to get'em to someone who could use them. LC
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I rec'd LC's 97 and did the repair...minor issue. LC mentioned he had some
old carb kits and could we do a trade.....sure I said. Does anyone remember P&D, Jiffy & Sorensen kits esp for Strombergs. Power valves, correct return springs, the tiny kicker spring, 6-32 t'plate screws on and on. PLUS the
delightful packaging..3x5x1 cardboard with superb graphics....as good as finding my barn find '32. Digging deeper some small card board tubes with
inlet needles and seats....old dried tags with Ford pt #'s.

I'm an old goof but it's part of what keeps me going.
We made an 'it's all good ' deal.
Charlie ny
Chopped liver would like to know what the minor issue was.
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I rec'd LC's 97 and did the repair...minor issue. LC mentioned he had some
old carb kits and could we do a trade.....sure I said. Does anyone remember P&D, Jiffy & Sorensen kits esp for Strombergs. Power valves, correct return springs, the tiny kicker spring, 6-32 t'plate screws on and on. PLUS the
delightful packaging..3x5x1 cardboard with superb graphics....as good as finding my barn find '32. Digging deeper some small card board tubes with
inlet needles and seats....old dried tags with Ford pt #'s.

I'm an old goof but it's part of what keeps me going.
We made an 'it's all good ' deal.
Charlie ny
Charlie, I would be excited about a deal like that too !

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Old 08-27-2021, 07:34 PM   #5
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Max...check your emails, might be in spam .
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The issue with the 97 was gooie 'rubber' dust 1/3 way up in the bowl....idle tubes,
jets and e mul tubes.
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Max...check your emails, might be in spam .
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The issue with the 97 was gooie 'rubber' dust 1/3 way up in the bowl....idle tubes,
jets and e mul tubes.
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Strange events in the Georgia atmosphere and gasmosphere in the last ten years, perhaps...
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May be good to look for the source of the goo. Fuel pump or flex line to the pump.
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May be good to look for the source of the goo. Fuel pump or flex line to the pump.
That is in progress as we speak. Cleaning out fuel line from tank to carb. No telling what I'll find. Replacing all rubber connectors on fuel line, including flex line and new fuel pump. It ought to then run like it should.
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Charlie, if you like old carb kits, I have a pile of kits. While its mostly gaskets and seems to fit everything and yet probably nothing as I'm sure they have shrunk up.
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Charlie, if you like old carb kits, I have a pile of kits. While its mostly gaskets and seems to fit everything and yet probably nothing as I'm sure they have shrunk up.
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I recently had a 97 flood out. There was a small glob of rubbery stuck on the end of the needle valve allowing fuel to pour into the bowl. I use a mechanical pump without the site bowl. It has a very fine screen and there was no evidence of any debris there. I use a rubber fuel line which is 10 years old so maybe minor particles built up on the needle valve. Switching to a copper line would be a better way to go...... should of.....
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Roger: I Suggest a steel line not copper.
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If I attempt a swap copper will be a chore, but steal would be much more difficult to fish it around and make the bends. Why not copper it was OEM.?
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If I attempt a swap copper will be a chore, but steal would be much more difficult to fish it around and make the bends. Why not copper it was OEM.?
Think that was copper coated steel.
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If I attempt a swap copper will be a chore, but steal would be much more difficult to fish it around and make the bends. Why not copper it was OEM.?

As JSeery mentions, the originals WERE copper-coated STEEL.

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Check at some of the parts stores there is some very flexible steel. They are often made up in short lengths.
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Charlie, if you like old carb kits, I have a pile of kits. While its mostly gaskets and seems to fit everything and yet probably nothing as I'm sure they have shrunk up.
Hi flatrod, if you have any gasket sets or other parts for '53 through '56 Holley teapot carbs, I would be interested.

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Isn't it funny (Both funny strange and funny Ha Ha) how subject matter of posts change within 5 or 6 entries?
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That is in progress as we speak. Cleaning out fuel line from tank to carb. No telling what I'll find. Replacing all rubber connectors on fuel line, including flex line and new fuel pump. It ought to then run like it should.
Today I removed the flex hose and carefully split it open from end to end. It looked absolutely pristine inside. The hunt for the culprit continues. two very short rubber connections connecting the electric fuel pump seem unlikely prospects, but we'll see. Waiting on carburetor and fuel pump from Charlie ny.
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Lawson: I have seen electric fuel pumps as the source of goo so don't overlook them.
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