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Old 01-04-2017, 11:32 AM   #1
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Default 1936 ford grill

is there any easy way???fenders, lights,running boards,fender side panels are all on,but grill is along way from fitting...this car came with 2 truck loads of extra parts,that will be for sale after the build is done [90%]
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Old 01-04-2017, 11:33 AM   #2
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Like any other old car fitting all bolts must be loose until all body parts installed.
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Old 01-04-2017, 03:34 PM   #3
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Do you have an original grille or repro?
Repros do not fit very well and require a lot of "tweaking".
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Old 01-04-2017, 03:47 PM   #4
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original,going to take everything off or loose friday...
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Old 01-04-2017, 04:23 PM   #5
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Start with the grille, work outward, and finish with the front fenders. The headlamps go on only after everything else is tightened down and fitting to your satisfaction.
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It seems that there are a few variations of the 1936 Ford Grilles. Here is one with what looks like pressed in ribs?
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Old 01-04-2017, 04:51 PM   #7
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Here are shots of a second type of Grille for the 1936 Ford. Is this one and the one pictured in my previous Post genuine Ford, or is one a Reproduction?
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Old 01-04-2017, 05:09 PM   #8
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The Bottom one is Ford. I was told that ford made some like the top one.
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Old 01-04-2017, 05:49 PM   #9
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Start with the grille, work outward, and finish with the front fenders. The headlamps go on only after everything else is tightened down and fitting to your satisfaction.
I would mostly agree with DavidG, however...
1. Check the frame for square/level etc.
2. Loose mount the radiator and grille.
3. Fit the hood to the cowl and grille, adjusting radiator support rods and shimming the body and/or radiator as needed.
4. Fenders and fender/grille extensions.
5. Fender brackets
6. Inner fenders (2 per side)
7. Inner grille baffle and under grille pan.
8. Hood latch brackets
9. Headlights

Note that many of these parts "stack" in a different order than I suggest for fitting, you will be assembling and disassembling stuff several times.

Number 3 is the most critical as getting the hood to fit is almost impossible unless done early.
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Old 01-04-2017, 06:12 PM   #10
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And this folks ,,,is why,, I love the Fordbarn ! Ask a detailed question ,get a detailed answer ! MP
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Old 01-04-2017, 07:12 PM   #11
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Both grilles in the large photos are original '36s. Two different suppliers with different manufacturing capabilities with both designs released by Ford Engineering.

I agree with Karl, except steps 5 and 6 must come before step 4 or you will drive yourself nuts.
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Old 01-04-2017, 10:58 PM   #12
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My advice! Don't chrome or finalize paint until you fit all the parts you want to use and verify or modify to get the level of fit you desire. A lot of extra work but can save a lot of anguish later.
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Old 01-07-2017, 04:42 PM   #13
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I took everything off or loosen it up friday then it went together but the hood..when I went to check the two holes on top of the grill to chrome V8 and grill is 3/8 to far back, plenty of room on rad. bolts. tacking a break until sunday, going to think about tonight.....
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Take the small bolts that hold the sides of the grille to the radiator out.
Line up the grille with the hood ornament by pushing/pulling on the bottom of the grille with bolts loose., then check the position of the holes in the sides of the grille with their corresponding holes in the brackets on the radiator. If the radiator was recored or fiddled with then the side brackets are probably not soldered on in the correct position. I think this is a common problem.
I put mine together before paint and found that the brackets were out by 1/4 inch so I made a template for the radiator guy to use when soldering it back together.
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Old 01-22-2017, 12:13 AM   #15
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The one piece grille (shown above) is the best one for rechroming.
The fabricated one is difficult as chrome will not flow between layers of steel and will rust quickly unless filled with wax and kept dry.
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Old 01-22-2017, 11:32 AM   #16
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The attached pix is of the grille in my '36. The car is a Aug, 36 car, the grille is original to the car. I am the second owner, have owned the car 64 years.
The vertical bars are bright chrome on the leading edge, dull/brushed chrome on the sides. The vertical bars are crimped into the shell in lieu of being a one piece.
I believe the original Ford grilles were like mine, the replacement grilles were one piece, cheaper to make..
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Old 01-22-2017, 12:24 PM   #17
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My 36 is all together but I want to take off the grill to allow easy access to the front of the engine. If I don't loosen the rest of the front end will it be a problem reinstalling the grill and hood?

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Old 01-22-2017, 08:28 PM   #18
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I found this sequence to work well with my phaeton:

Do all the front metal with the horns and radiator removed.

install fenders first

inner fender panels next

horn grille panels next -- these fit between the ears on the headlight supports and the fender (picture)

grille and lower baffle panel last.

After all is tightened up and aligned, you can lower the radiator from the top and twist/angle it a little to get it to fit the supports. If the engine is in, remove the distributor to have some working room for the rad. I tape some cardboard on to protect the fins.

There are four lower grille bolts that are quite difficult with the rad in place.

Don't forget the welting while the bolts are loose. All the bolts are 5/16-24 (fine thread) and are the black oil finish. Roy Nacewicz has sets for all the front metal.

Hope this is useful,

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Old 01-22-2017, 08:34 PM   #19
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Charlie K, it will all fit back easily. I've had mine off a couple of times without refit problems. With the hood off, remove distributor to have working room to get the radiator out. Take the horns out next. Radiator out next, then the grille and lower baffle.

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Thanks John.
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