Porters or Smithy's ?

[oneoldtruckguy]

I just installed a set of Reds Headers and a pair of Smithy's muffler's but was really disappointed with the sound on the Smithy's. To me they are really quiet. I haven't put the tail pipes on yet, (Have to go to town and have the tail pipes made) Maybe that will make them sound better. I want a nice LOUD deep sound. I think I will take the Smithy's back off and try the Porters before they get welded on. Then Fish Tail Tips on the back. What do You guys think?

[stan35]

My '35 Cabriolet has dual exhausts with Red's headers and Smithy mufflers. They were on the car when I purchased it. To me they are not loud at all. I don't know about the other brands, but if you want LOUD, these are not the brand for you. Stan

[V8 Bob]

Brockman 12" glasspac MellowTones!

[Deuce Man]

If you want to rattle windows when you drive thru town, use two different length glasspacs. Rich

[42guy]

I use the Brockmans. Sound great according to everyone who hears them.

[oneoldtruckguy]

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I am going to take a look at the Brockman's. I kind of like the idea of running 2 different size's, Thanks very Much Guy's! Any other comments?

[40grit]

If you block off your heat risers, you will find the Smitty's come alive some. I am running Red's Headers and long Smitty's behind a fairly well built '51 Merc in my '36 roadster.

I am very pleased with them.

John

[Strick]

Brockman Steelpacks

[f1builder]

it takes a bit for the smitties to get louder, been running mine for 2-3 months and they are starting to rack off. also, nothing against reds headers but steel headers don't give the sound i like, which is deeper. i run fenton cast iron headers. even stock cast iron manifolds sound better than steel headers imho.

[skidmarks]

I use ford tractor mufflers and change the ends on the mufflers. Small and cheap. Tractor supply sells them. Small diameter tailpipes help too on a flathead . 1-3/4 with duals

[JSeery]

Originally Posted by f1builder

it takes a bit for the smitties to get louder, been running mine for 2-3 months and they are starting to rack off. also, nothing against reds headers but steel headers don't give the sound i like, which is deeper. i run fenton cast iron headers. even stock cast iron manifolds sound better than steel headers imho.

Interesting. On most OHV engines I have worked on it's the other way around. Cast iron muffles the exhaust sound and steel headers seem to amplify it.

[Bassman/NZ]

I use 22" Smithys with stock manifolds. They are not loud, but they have a nice deep rumble. Loud gets obnoxious quickly on a long trip.

[40grit]

I can not comment on which sound better but the quality of the headrers Red sent me was great. Not only did they fit well but the ceramic (?) coating on them still looks new 5 years later.

John Long

[JSeery]

It's to bad he can't get production straightened out.

[WestCoast]

smittys are just another common type glass pack, not near the quality they were in the 60's, doesn't have the old time sound, they are living on there reputation from the 50's, change them to Brockmans steel packed

[f1builder]

Originally Posted by JSeery

Interesting. On most OHV engines I have worked on it's the other way around. Cast iron muffles the exhaust sound and steel headers seem to amplify it.

i am talking flathead v8 and have a preference for cast iron headers and that means fentons as far as i know. i think the steel headers sound too metalic for my taste is what i mean. tinny. cheap. like i said, just my opinion and preference. i haven't worked on an ohv engine for 30 years or so. thats why i like my flatties, i don't even know how to change plugs on the newer engines. way too complicated for me.

[JSeery]

I had never paid that much attention to the difference in the sound of flatheads with steel vs cast headers, that why I said interesting. I will pay more attention in the future and see if I can tell/learn the difference.

[Kahuna]

If you want loud, use Cherry Bombs

[Shoebox]

I just received a pair of stainless Porters, the quality is simply fantastic. Will be installing on my 39 Merc tomorrow morning..........will report back on the sound

Shoebox

[37fordtruckguy]

magnaflow sells good glass packs.nice deep rumbly sound to them.

[lonewolf]

Straight pipes

[JSeery]

Now we're talking!

[JWL]

Someone already mentioned this---Smitty mufflers get MUCH louder after a healthy engine blasts thru them for a month or so. Mine were good, initially, but are VERY annoying on a long drive after "burning-out".

[Lawson Cox]

If you crave a nice sweet mellow tone, install a gutted muffler.
won't burst your eardrums.

[Vic Piano]

I use Red's headers and Brockman steel packed Mellow Tones on four of my Flatheads. If you call Brockman's and let them know what kind of sound you want, they will build you a set...

[FlatheadTed]

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Straight pipes 1,1/4 tail ,with a cut of or gate valve to divert it through a muffler when the noise get to you ,Ted

[CA Victoria]

Talked to Brockman today and affirmed that they will not do 1.75 in/outlet. Said he runs 17" steel packs on his flathead. If anyone comes up with a video I'd like to hear what they sound like. One short video demonstrates at idle sound but not at RPM..... I'm starting with 1.75 straight pipes and stock log pickup manifolds.......

[Ball and Chain]

What size pipe does everybody run???

[Drbrown]

My '47 which spent the majority of its life in CA has its original CI manifolds and the typical '50s exhaust pipe conversion kit for dual exhausts. It has the smaller 1-1/2 inch pipes.

It has its original Smithy mufflers from those days and although they don't rattle any windows they have a nice "bark" when the engine's under load.

[chap52]

Running Red's headers with Headman turbo mufflers. Nice "medium" sound level set-up.

[bchrismer]

I was cheap and went with a set of Walker Glasspack Mufflers - 24041, on my '40 stake truck, with 1 3/4" tailpipes. After about 5000 miles, I'm still quite pleased. I don't have any drone going down the highway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDXwFNjfccI

[Steves46]

Straaaaaaight pipes!!!

[Johnnydidd]

I got 18" glass packs on my 53 Victoria with Fenton Cast Iron Headers, took a while them burn in but now sound great, I am hard of hearing, I think they sound great!!!!!!!!!!!!!! we use to pour oil in them so they burn out faster.

[oneoldtruckguy]

Thanks for all the Great Advice! I called Brockman's this morning and ordered a set of 12in. steel packs. Hope I like the sound or I will try something else. So now I have a Brand New Set of Smithy's with less than about 3 minutes on them. If anyone is interested I will make someone a deal on them. Thanks Again from Montana!

[KiWinUS]

Originally Posted by lonewolf

Straight pipes

Only way to fly !!!

[PeterC]

Originally Posted by lonewolf

Straight pipes

Interesting re Straight Pipes - on my 284ci ScOT blown engine the sound was so loud it was unbearable - and I like loud ! So I guess it depends on the way the engine is set up and your individual tolerance for loud.

[41merc]

53 Mercury motor (stock), Red's headers and 1 3/4" diameter straight pipes = perfect sound for me.

[B-O-B]

That post about brockmans having 1 3/4" in/out just makes me really mad. When I ordered mine the broad( I use the term loosely here) said the smallest they make is 2" in/out so that is what I bought & had to get reducers from the parts store. So much for brockmans for me in the future.

[skidmarks]

Originally Posted by B-O-B

That post about brockmans having 1 3/4" in/out just makes me really mad. When I ordered mine the broad( I use the term loosely here) said the smallest they make is 2" in/out so that is what I bought & had to get reducers from the parts store. So much for brockmans for me in the future.

A couple posts up says they do not have them in 1-3/4. On a new muffler I have sawed many inlet or outlets off and welded on a new one to the size I needed. Just finished another early ford chassis with all new pipe and a pair of ford tractor mufflers I changed the ends on. But having your own exhaust pipe bender makes the job easy.

[Bassman/NZ]

I've had straight pipes, but in my advancing years (68) I find them tiresome on a trip. The one I did really like was a 36 coupe with copper straight pipes.... that sounded very cool, and they glowed at night after a good hard run.

[V8 Bob]

Originally Posted by B-O-B

That post about brockmans having 1 3/4" in/out just makes me really mad. When I ordered mine the broad( I use the term loosely here) said the smallest they make is 2" in/out so that is what I bought & had to get reducers from the parts store. So much for brockmans for me in the future.

Sorry you have to slander the lady you talked to about your order. Brockmans are one of the highest quality custom made mufflers available, made by a well known family run business. Is it such a big deal to purchase reducers to mate your pipes? You need another hobby. Seriously!

[B-O-B]

Same to you V8 Bob. I ask for the 1 3/4" inlet/outlet & she said they do not make them as they cannot get the tubing. I wanted the sound so I was willing to buy the adapters. I paid plenty for two mufflers why should I have to buy adapters to make them work when I now find out they make the size I ask for. I DID NOT ASK FOR YOUR ADVICE EITHER. THIS IS STILL THE USA where we practice freedom of speech. Further more I never said anything about the quality or the performance. If you have any problems use the PM button & I will respond accordingly. Have great evening. Take a happy pill.

[skidmarks]

Originally Posted by B-O-B

Same to you V8 Bob. I ask for the 1 3/4" inlet/outlet & she said they do not make them as they cannot get the tubing. I wanted the sound so I was willing to buy the adapters. I paid plenty for two mufflers why should I have to buy adapters to make them work when I now find out they make the size I ask for. I DID NOT ASK FOR YOUR ADVICE EITHER. THIS IS STILL THE USA where we practice freedom of speech. Further more I never said anything about the quality or the performance. If you have any problems use the PM button & I will respond accordingly. Have great evening. Take a happy pill.

I went to a Chinese resturant and wanted a Big Mac. They said they dont make them. Last time I will go to that Chinese resturant.

Yo could have taken your pipes to a muffler shop and had the ends expanded to fit.

[B-O-B]

Skidmarks sure could have & just what do you think the muffler shop would charge?? The adapters were less & that is not the problem. Read my post again. I could have gone with many other options,straight pipes, smittys, redhots,even gutted stock mufflers also hell I could have even sold or gave the car away.BTW next time try chinese from McDonalds.
JFYI I have a pipe expander.

[skidmarks]

Then stop complaining

[B-O-B]

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Why ??? I have the same rights that you. If you do not like what I post when it says B-O-B DO NOT OPEN IT!!!easy nough for ya.

[prpmmp]

http://www.wordorigins.org/index.php...omments/broad/ Pete

[skidmarks]

Right bob. You do. Carry on as you please its cheap entertainment like the USPS money order. Its porters fault.

Pete that was funny

[skidmarks]

H

Originally Posted by B-O-B

Why ??? I have the same rights that you. If you do not like

what I post when it says B-O-B DO NOT OPEN IT!!!easy nough for ya.

Your funny. I think the HAMB is a better place for your

[B-O-B]

Don't recall asking for your advice or WHAT YOU THINK
As I stated use the PM service that is available.

[48 coupe]

Nothing like a pissin match. Just like back in the day. fyi. I used a set of muffler shop steel packs I think could have ben glass packs ? [ I think about 25 bucks each] they are welded heavy steel. Sound good with the finton cast headers. Ben on for over

15 years now look good yet.Just my 2 cents worth BOB has a good point. and besides that it really was his dime.

[38bill]

Originally Posted by Kahuna

If you want loud, use Cherry Bombs

I actually have Cherry Bombs on my truck now and they arent really very loud but they have a great sound. I love it when I run under a bridge or overpass and can hear the flathead running. I had Smthy's at first and these are just a little louder. They also fit between the frame better as their short ones are an inche or two shorter than the Smithy's short muffler. They were cheap too, something like $22 each.

[Shoebox]

Well, I got my stainless Porters installed this week on my 39 and I really love their sound! Nice low note at idle and the great flathead burble/rap while going through the gears. The Smithy's on my 51 sounded great to begin with but over time got too loud, hope the Porters don't change as much over time, we'll see how it goes.

Shoebox

[f1builder]

B.O.B.......calling a lady a broad is not nice regardless of the situation.

[skidmarks]

Originally Posted by f1builder

B.O.B.......calling a lady a broad is not nice regardless of the situation.

Carefull. BOB only gives opinions and doesn't like it when someone else gives their's.

[Ryan]

You fellas can't give opinions without bagging on others? Don't expect to have accounts long.