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05-19-2021, 12:44 PM | #1 |
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Spring Shackles
What's the consensus on replacement spring shackles? I'm running a set of nice NOS units on my 1936 sedan, the only problem is, they creak and groan like an old man climbing a flight of stairs. I've tried tightening and loosening the crossbars and attempted to get some penetrating lubricant into the rubber, but nothing has made any difference whatsoever.
I hear there are some newer replacement-type shackles that might be better, but I'm not sure what would work best. I hear urethane bushings squeak just as bad or worse. These nylon ones from Speedway seem highly rated, but I'm not sure what's best. https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Trans...ings,2083.html |
05-19-2021, 01:43 PM | #2 | |
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There is a lot of horizontal pressure on those bushings as well as the weight of the car. Bill |
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05-19-2021, 02:33 PM | #3 |
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Re: Spring Shackles
Stick with the NOS ones. I installed the nylon ones and they have worn out in less than 2000 miles. I am beginning to think about replacing them with oilite bushings. What say y'all about that?
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Re: Spring Shackles
There is a difference in how they work. Original Ford shackles should not allow the bolts to turn freely, they provide resistance that dampens the spring movement. More modern replacements do not.
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05-19-2021, 02:57 PM | #5 |
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Re: Spring Shackles
I made my own from moly filled Delrin. I have been using this stuff since the late 50's.
You have to grease them once in awhile. Everything should be loose and free for best chassis setup and ride. You want MINIMAL damping in the spring itself. That is the shock absorber job. |
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05-19-2021, 06:43 PM | #7 |
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If your new shackle studs are filled with rubber, they are not NOS, but rather NORS as Ford shifted to asbestos filled studs starting with the '33 models.
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I used moly filled Nylon bushing in my '41. installed them in about '95 and were still in the car, without any noticeable wear, when we sold it in about '17.
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05-20-2021, 10:28 PM | #11 |
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It is a lot easier to use new style nylon/poly/moly bushings over the original style. If you have a points car the original style is needed. otherwise it's not really anything anyone will see. I have them on my 38, but my exhaust is a little loud (not too loud, but louder then I would like, sooo maybe too loud ) and I do not hear any squeaking.
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Several ways to route the grease in. I prefer going in the side rather than drilling the shaft which weakens it. Both the inside and outside of the bushing need grease. I run .002 clearance on both. |
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05-21-2021, 01:36 PM | #14 |
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Re: Spring Shackles
Admiral, some of that groaning and squeaking you hear could be coming from the spring leaves lacking lubrication. I found that to be causing the problem on my '35 fordor sedan. When I took the spring pack apart, I could see the steel to steel rubbing marks and fretting corrosion around the tips of each leaf. After cleaning and smoothing those areas, and applying spring lube, most all of those noises disappeared.
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