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KR500 · 08-31-2019, 01:00 AM

Have recently torn into a damaged engine caused by blown head gasket and other issues. After removing oil pan noticed crank and timing gear quite dry with no apparent residual oil on the gears. Car is equipped with float a motors. Can the donuts on Float A Motors be sagged enough to tip engine back enough to rob last front cavity of valve chamber to be robbed of oil, which would prevent oil from seeping on to crank and timing gear?

Mike V. Florida · 08-31-2019, 01:30 AM

Short answer, no. there is so much oil pumped into the valve chamber, Ford had a return pipe and a hole on the front of the valve area to allow oil to drain over the timing gear. Bad oil pump, maybe but float a motor, no.

rotorwrench · 08-31-2019, 08:45 AM

Check the pump and the oil path to that area. You never know what you'll find in these old engines.

Jim Brierley · 08-31-2019, 10:46 AM

Don't know why you found them dry, when running there is oil being flung all over the insides of the engine. If you remove a bolt from the front timing gear cover, you will find out!

31 Vicky · 08-31-2019, 05:07 PM

Jim, that sounds like the voice of experience?

On at tour I followed a smoking car. The pin had fallen in the crossmember! Talk about living right!!

A's Always
Dave

31 Vicky · 08-31-2019, 05:13 PM

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KR500 · 08-31-2019, 09:32 PM

Thanks for the response. Have already delved into rebuilding oil pump and will test it with a portable drill in a bucket of oil.

duke36 · 09-01-2019, 11:17 AM

You brought up a good question and in the process, suggest installing new FAM donuts from the reputable vendors. They will help maintain proper front end caster and starter crank hole alignment.

08-31-2019, 01:00 AM	#1
KR500 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Addison,ll. Posts: 454	Float a motors Have recently torn into a damaged engine caused by blown head gasket and other issues. After removing oil pan noticed crank and timing gear quite dry with no apparent residual oil on the gears. Car is equipped with float a motors. Can the donuts on Float A Motors be sagged enough to tip engine back enough to rob last front cavity of valve chamber to be robbed of oil, which would prevent oil from seeping on to crank and timing gear?

08-31-2019, 01:30 AM	#2
Mike V. Florida Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 14,054	Re: Float a motors Short answer, no. there is so much oil pumped into the valve chamber, Ford had a return pipe and a hole on the front of the valve area to allow oil to drain over the timing gear. Bad oil pump, maybe but float a motor, no. __________________ What's right about America is that although we have a mess of problems, we have great capacity - intellect and resources - to do some thing about them. - Henry Ford II

08-31-2019, 08:45 AM	#3
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 16,436	Re: Float a motors Check the pump and the oil path to that area. You never know what you'll find in these old engines.

08-31-2019, 10:46 AM	#4
Jim Brierley Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Temecula, CA Posts: 4,089	Re: Float a motors Don't know why you found them dry, when running there is oil being flung all over the insides of the engine. If you remove a bolt from the front timing gear cover, you will find out!

08-31-2019, 05:07 PM	#5
31 Vicky Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 106	Re: Float a motors Jim, that sounds like the voice of experience? On at tour I followed a smoking car. The pin had fallen in the crossmember! Talk about living right!! A's Always Dave Last edited by 31 Vicky; 08-31-2019 at 05:19 PM.

08-31-2019, 05:13 PM	#6
31 Vicky Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 106	Re: Float a motors Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Duplicate post Last edited by 31 Vicky; 08-31-2019 at 05:22 PM.

08-31-2019, 09:32 PM	#7
KR500 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Addison,ll. Posts: 454	Re: Float a motors Thanks for the response. Have already delved into rebuilding oil pump and will test it with a portable drill in a bucket of oil.

09-01-2019, 11:17 AM	#8
duke36 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 1,414	Re: Float a motors You brought up a good question and in the process, suggest installing new FAM donuts from the reputable vendors. They will help maintain proper front end caster and starter crank hole alignment.