Need a value. Quick! 1931 barn find.....

[Garagekulture13]

I'm in my 1930 coupe at a gas station today and an 83 year old man says he has one right down the road he would sale. Which is minutes from my house. Crazy. What do you think it's worth. It's a 1931 and hasn't ran in 3 years been parked a long time. He says he wants $7500 not a dime less and wants to know tomorrow. I felt this was a little high. What does The Barn think?

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[JOHN CT]

4,500.00 the most. I would walk away for 7,500.00. But that's my opinion

[Keith True]

It would sell for that price here in a short time.it may be a whole different ball game in your part of the country.It looks a little crusty along the bottom,but when the local A guys got done picking it apart a street rodder would just fork over the money and haul it off.As an A guy here put it,while us A guys are picking out everything wrong,telling the owner what it needs,the rod guy is just standing there waiting for us to get done with the jibber jabber so he can fork over his money.Your neck of the woods may be completely different.

[pooch]

If that started , drove and stopped, it would get double that asking price here in OZ.

[Kahuna]

In looking at it, I think the price is fair
JMO
Jim

[RonC]

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Car needs everything! Your looking at well over $15k or more to get it decent. That's about $23k plus. Do you want a coupe for 23k?

[Mitch//pa]

Take a good look inside the gas tank I see a metal inline fuel filter..
I would want to hear it run and feel it drive before forking over anything
Most likely it's a mess mechanically and not worth it
it looks like a carport find not a barn find

[Tom Wesenberg]

I agree with Vince, but also think Keith is right that on ebay it will fetch the price by a rod guy.

[lakeside]

I wouldn't be concerned with what a rod guy would pay. That doesn't make the car worth more,particularly, if you intend to keep it original. The value ratio is not equal, in my opinion.

[ModelAMike1930]

I would run like hell away from this one. I bought a running 1930 pickup for $5600.00

[TDO]

Looks like one front tire is straight and the drivers side is pointed out ward.

[lakeside]

I would also be suspicious of why the seller wants an answer in 24 hours.My guess would be, he's going to see if you bite at the highest price he's asked for the car so far.Try to be rational.

[Roadster62]

That looks like a Hot Rod body, and some running gear and fenders that will show up on eBay an hour after they are photographed. Bob

[19Fordy]

$3500-4000. Even that's a stretch. those cars are not as "hot" as they used to be -especially if they don't run and drive. Don't be afraid to walk away.

[hardtimes]

Hm, pictures not showing to view and answer ! Are they too big ..what ??

[Synchro909]

This might be a strange comment fro a country that doesn't have titles for cars - no such thing but "Does it have a title??"
The only way I learned such a thing existed was when I was informed by a helpful gent that I should never buy a car without one.
It seems to me that it would be worth more with a title but I don't really understand your system.

[ronn]

I would just walk- not an exceptional deal by any means..................!

[Garagekulture13]

I called several friends for advice from both sides. Stock guy and hot rod builders. As already stated the stock guy didn't act like it was much of a deal and I feel the same. I could see $5K. Now the other buddies who run hot rod shops didn't even mention the rust and one is going with me tomorrow to make an offer. He has already stated he is bringing cash if I pass. The guy did say he had the title. He didn't put a dead line on me but I said I would be back tomorrow. He spoke very much that his health was very bad ( he had a powered wheel chair and I could see and hear he was in pain to stand). I offered to help him but he wouldn't let me. I get it.

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[CT Jack]

This coupe is worth $3K-$4K and not a penny more. The cost to have a quality engine rebuild is $6500-$7000. I am having one done as I write this reply. The sheet metal looks like it is in decent condition such that you wouldn't have to buy new or replacements parts. The car is definitely worth restoring but not worth $7500.

[jeep44]

I can just about smell the huge mouse nest under the seat from here-but who says the engine needs a $6500 rebuild? On my '30 Fordor that had been sitting 30+ years, the engine exterior looked just about like this one-but it was in good condition inside-I just got it on the stand, cleaned it out well, reground the valves by hand, and checked the bearing clearances-it runs fine, and it sure didn't cost anything in that neighborhood. Just last week I saw the result of a hot rodder getting a '28-'29 Coupe-he only took the body, and sold the running, very original chassis to a friend of mine-he didn't even take the original Motometer off the radiator.

[BILL WILLIAMSON]

Some of these old cars are like gettin' into a BAD MARRIAGE & are STUCK in it!---It seems worse, when you first wake up in the MORNING!
Bill W.

[Mike V. Florida]

Originally Posted by Garagekulture13

I'm in my 1930 coupe at a gas station today and an 83 year old man says he has one right down the road he would sale. Which is minutes from my house. Crazy. What do you think it's worth. It's a 1931 and hasn't ran in 3 years been parked a long time. He says he wants $7500 not a dime less and wants to know tomorrow. I felt this was a little high. What does The Barn think?

I'm not one of these "the cost to restore is more then it's worth" guys. Unless you get the steal of the century, no model A will sell for what you have in it right away.

But with that, no, walk away.

A) You already have one. So if you don't need something to do to keep you busy you don't, why?
B) Why are there two ammeters on the seat?
C) Why is the instrument panel apart?
D) Yea, it ran when I parked it!
E) Lot of panel replacement.
F) and so on.

He wants an emotional sale, that is why he says 24 hours. He does not want you to think about it or do any research (guess he does not know about us). What will happen in 25 hours?

The Gas Monkey crooks sold one in much better shape for the same money.

[C26Pinelake]

Offer him $4000 and give him 24 hours to make up his mind. Wayne

[Dodge]

Tell the old guy you want some of whatever he's smoking as he must be high on something.
But let the hot rod guy buy it maybe it will make our cars worth more money............

[burner31]

Pass
But don't let the rodder anywhere near it. It can still be saved...but not for that price.
$3000...$4000 tops

[Wick]

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Here in va it would bring 7500.00....then remove the fenders,hood and wipe her down with wd-40.
Get it to run/drive around the block. Price it at 10,995 or a little more at it will sell quickly.
You can see this was a nice car at some time.70's restoration?

[racer32]

If it was here in Texas he'd have already sold it.

[C26Pinelake]

Originally Posted by racer32

If it was here in Texas he'd have already sold it.

If I ever decide to liquidate my collection, I will advertise it in Texas. Obviously car values are substantially higher there than in the rest of the country. Wayne

[Bob-A]

I just hope and pray the "rod" guy does not get it.

Bob-A

[Mitch//pa]

Maybe we should all chip in and buy it so the rod guys don't get it.. We can then sell it in OZ and make a huge profit

[ModAfan]

Even The Colonel was partial to cars like that.

[Dennis Pereira]

What I see is a lot of hard to find parts and a great project but I would sure wave a much lower stack of cash under his nose .

[Jacksonlll]

$3500 to $4000 tops.
Give him your card and a $$$$ number and let him call you.

[Capt Quahog]

A lot in price and real market value depends upon where these things are located. Here is the heavily populated northeast, stuff usually sells for more than in the middle of the country.

And too . . . 'Hard Cash" does really talk loudly. As crass at it might be, carefully un-pocketing a wad of tasty Ben Franklin hundred dollar notes has quickly dislodged many "firm prices". Never be afraid to walk away! Also too . . . "he who speaks LAST looses the better deal." Make the real offer and then remain silent. At least that's what I was taught long ago by a couple of pro antique / junk dealers. Most times the procedure worked.

[Garagekulture13]

Thanks everyone for their reply. I just left the gentleman's house. He would not budge from $7500. We walked away.

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[pooch]

Originally Posted by Mitch//pa

Maybe we should all chip in and buy it so the rod guys don't get it.. We can then sell it in OZ and make a huge profit

Yep, look at this for $6900 ....to you guys just a load of parts that you would maybe offer $1000 for ....

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/logan...ect/1109070554

If it was closer to me I would grab it.

I sold a running chassis similar to this with a fibreglass half put together roadster for 9K last year.

Had 3 guys fighting over it.

[Pinesdune]

Just saw this on eBay. Thought I'd pass on the link for you guys to ponder over

http://m.ebay.ca/itm/Ford-Model-A-2d...509?nav=SEARCH

[C26Pinelake]

Originally Posted by Pinesdune

Just saw this on eBay. Thought I'd pass on the link for you guys to ponder over

http://m.ebay.ca/itm/Ford-Model-A-2d...509?nav=SEARCH

eBay prices mean nothing unless it is a completed sale where reserve was met. They can ask anything they want, but the important price is what did it sell for?
Wayne

[Roadster62]

Good one to follow, lets see how far over $8,000. that one goes. Bob

Originally Posted by Pinesdune

Just saw this on eBay. Thought I'd pass on the link for you guys to ponder over

http://m.ebay.ca/itm/Ford-Model-A-2d...509?nav=SEARCH

[C26Pinelake]

Originally Posted by Garagekulture13

Thanks everyone for their reply. I just left the gentleman's house. He would not budge from $7500. We walked away.

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You are a wise man! Wayne

[Tom Wesenberg]

It will sell high because of who is selling it.

[Synchro909]

Originally Posted by pooch

Yep, look at this for $6900 ....to you guys just a load of parts that you would maybe offer $1000 for ....

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/logan...ect/1109070554

If it was closer to me I would grab it.

I sold a running chassis similar to this with a fibreglass half put together roadster for 9K last year.

Had 3 guys fighting over it.

What a pile of mis-matched bits and pieces. LHD steering column but a RHD fuel tank. It's a free country - he can ask what he likes!!

[Royce P]

Looks like $2500 - $3500 on my screen. Lots of rust, poorly restored previously, and then left sitting outside. I probably would look for a nicer example if I wanted a coupe. It just needs too much work to make economic sense to me.

[pooch]

The OP coupe body looks better than this gasmonkey one and it is a whole car.

Glad most of you don't do appraisals for me.....

[Mike V. Florida]

Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg

It will sell high because of who is selling it.

While there are no detailed pictures, it does not seem to have the rot that the one we are talking about has on it.

[ronn]

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So like someone else asked, what happened after 25 hours?
Did you ask that question?
The price is firm but you only get 24 hours to act? _____

Maybe the guy is tired of tire kickers? I dont blame him.
I sold 4 cars on ebay in the last month and everyone went MIA.

and of course ebay doesnt care, as long as they get your listing money...........

[Bob Bidonde]

This Coupe appears to be an older cosmetic restoration that has decayed substantially. My guess is that it is not running, so a price in the range of $2000 to $3000 is fair. If it runs and you could test drive it, I would consider another $1000.

[ronn]

Folks, coupe bodies alone sell for 4500. so I have no idea where you come up with these low prices?

no wonder the cars are all becoming rods.....................!

[jeep44]

Originally Posted by ronn

Folks, coupe bodies alone sell for 4500. so I have no idea where you come up with these low prices?

no wonder the cars are all becoming rods.....................!

This is how I just got my second Model T -a rodder just wanted the coupe body, so i bought a complete chassis with engine and fenders. It will likely be a speedster eventually.

[Garagekulture13]

Originally Posted by jeep44

This is how I just got my second Model T -a rodder just wanted the coupe body, so i bought a complete chassis with engine and fenders. It will likely be a speedster eventually.

I've already told the rodder if the drive train was going to be ditched that I wanted it.

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[Garagekulture13]

Here is the home. Under the carport is the Model A. I drove past again today. I'd like to get that car back on the road.

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[ronn]

doing surveillance???

[Mitch//pa]

Looks like he can use the 7500...

[ronn]

yes, he needs to get the rolls back on the road!

[Garagekulture13]

You can't tell but behind this house is another house about 15ft from the back of this one. The roof on it is falling in and on the half opened door written twice in permanent marker was "no truss passing"

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[pooch]

The guy may be a genius, and with that sign , he is finding out who has the intelligence that is worth his while talking to.

[Mitch//pa]

He thinks your going to comeback and steal the A so he blocked it with that fleetwood

[Garagekulture13]

Originally Posted by Mitch//pa

He thinks your going to comeback and steal the A so he blocked it with that fleetwood

All the cars had grass grown up around them. There is another Rolls behind the house.

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[Synchro909]

Did you hear the duelling banjos?

[mshmodela]

Get $4,000 in $100 dollar bills and show him the cash and tell him that's your best offer...

[ronn]

Get $4,000 in $100 dollar bills and show him the cash and tell him that's your best offer...

if you do that, keep one eye open for the shotgun and be ready to run!

"run Forest run"

[Keith True]

There are still a lot of people around here that get very insulted if you seem to think a wad of cash will impress them or change their minds.I don't get insulted,I just say,no thanks,not enough.I just saw the owner of a salvage yard toss somebody out for making an offer of half the asking price.It was an old plow truck,and the guy looking at it was trying to tell the owner that it was springtime and the truck was only worth half what he was asking.I've never been moved by the sight of a roll of money,it's just moldy old paper.I've had a lot of people wave it around thinking that the sight of it would excite me into dropping my price,It hasn't worked yet.

[Garagekulture13]

For those of you who think the car is worth the $7500 for $2500 more I'll put you in mine.

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[burner31]

A little perspective:
Paid $3500, no interior, no brakes, engine did not run but rotated, no electrical, missing glass, no title, car full of trash up to the window sills ...

What I found: Very little surface rust, no major cancer. Engine freshly re-built (very early '60's) but never ran more than a few minutes. All new brakes, but never hooked up. Body was removed and the frame cleaned and painted, new roof and wood (very early '60's), New clutch, clean gas tank, rebuilt tranny, (all very early '60's)

PO did a lot of work his Family did not know about, PO never finished it, stopping in 62-63...and there it sat for the next 53 years...waiting for me.

Sometimes you have to take the gamble, but don't bet the rent money and hit on 18.

[RonC]

For 3k more your could have this only 500 miles away
https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/172114061668

[Tom Wesenberg]

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Originally Posted by Garagekulture13

For those of you who think the car is worth the $7500 for $2500 more I'll put you in mine.

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That would be a much better deal than paying $7500 for the other one that needs a lot of work.

[Capt Quahog]

Get $4,000 in $100 dollar bills and show him the cash and tell him that's your best offer...

Yes! As my beloved uncle Stumbatzo told me just before his liver exploded and then keeled over dead. . . He said, "Money talks and bullsheet walks".

[Randy in ca]

The bare-bones body previously mentioned sold on eBay for $5200. There were 6 different bidders who bid more than $4000.

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[diomed]

I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but this is " priced to sell "

https://www.instagram.com/p/BE4OWaFLqqD/

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[Garagekulture13]

I saw that one on Instagram. I went by today and the coupe was gone from what I could see.

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[Garagekulture13]

Hot rodder won. I got to asking around to see who bought the coupe. I found it and this is how it looks as of the other day.

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[Keith True]

This is the one thing I predict the most,and the one thing I am right about the most.All the picking apart,making offers,pointing out how much it needs,means nothing.The rodders will step up and buy it.I can only speak for my little section of country,but they have clobbered most chances of old car guys getting a bargain.These are two A's that I tried to save from rodding,I bought both,at different times,hoping to keep them original.The coupe was solid and absolutely rust free.It had a Sears reman engine sitting in it,but was never hooked up.The sedan was a solid nice running car,but nothing special.I sold each car to rodders,each one brought $8000.Just what I had paid to save them.The sedan was the best deal,the buyer gave the new LeBaron interior and wheels/tires back to me.I'm supposed to get the engine too.

[Tim Ayers]

My dad just paid $12K for this Coupe. Nice older resto and 100% ready to go.

[Garagekulture13]

The rodder paid full price without hesitation.

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[Mike V. Florida]

Originally Posted by Garagekulture13

The rodder paid full price with hesitation.

There are plenty out there in better condition for equal or better money with your name on it.

I still believe you would have made a mistake by buying that specific car at that price.