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Old 01-21-2021, 02:12 AM   #1
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Default Calling Ol'Ron, calling Ol'Ron...

As the title says. Tried his personal email but message was rejected. Posted a Barm PM and no replies yet.
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Old 01-21-2021, 05:44 AM   #2
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I just checked my PM, and your RIGHT, I didn't answer you. However, I remember answering you, I probably forgot to push the right button. At 87 I forget allot of things. SSsssOOoooo??? Why .030?? Why 3 97's? Charley ny for dist great. What cam, any?
Whe building a street engine you low end need torque. The only thing that gives you this is compression and displacement. .060 or .125 would cost almost the same as .030" and give you more displacement and compression. 3 97 for a small engine would would be allot of trouble for local driving even with progressive linkage. However, by blocking off the center card ( leave the carb on) you could have a dual system. For street use install 2" risers under them. Sorry about that
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Old 01-21-2021, 09:03 AM   #3
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My opinion is to listen to OL'Ron .....
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Old 01-21-2021, 10:02 AM   #4
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I could not agree with you more. Listen to the man!
Nothing like advice from a guy that has "been there and done that" more times than mere mortals such as myself can imagine.
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Old 01-21-2021, 10:19 AM   #5
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Kube, i've read enough of your stuff here & on V8 Times to know you rank right up there too. My last 8BA was inspired a lot by Barners with experience.
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Kube, i've read enough of your stuff here & on V8 Times to know you rank right up there too. My last 8BA was inspired a lot by Barners with experience.
Thanks for the kind words. While I believe I do "okay" I can't help but have admiration for "ol Ron. They guy KNOWS his stuff. I read all of his posts and have learned quite a bit.
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Old 01-21-2021, 11:35 AM   #7
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OK, Buy the book!!!
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Old 01-21-2021, 11:45 AM   #8
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Ron is the man I learn a lot from him he probably forgot more then I will ever lnow
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Old 01-21-2021, 01:19 PM   #9
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Thanks. I'll get to CharlieNY for the distributor, I'll block off the centre carb, and I'll go see my machinist and discuss the .060 over versus the .030 over. I'll look into the 2" carb risers.

The cam is a local grind version of the Max1 so you advise using the .060 shims for the springs, correct?

Do you know how much the compression rises with my original Eddie Meyer heads?

One last thing, you did answer me but you had a couple of questions and you suggested I use your personal email. I tried but it bounced back so that is why I started this thread.

Thanks for all the help, I REALLY appreciate it!

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Old 01-21-2021, 01:44 PM   #10
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The man has built a reputation of being one of the best ! Congratulations
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Old 01-21-2021, 01:56 PM   #11
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Ask your machinist why he wants to stick with the small overbore. Has he documented thin cylinder walls or a core shift with sonic testing, or is he just applying his experience with modern thin wall castings? Like Ron says, "Whe[n] building a street engine you [want] low end need torque. The only thing that gives you this is compression and displacement. .060 or .125 would cost almost the same as .030" and give you more displacement and compression". This has been my experience as well. Back in the day, a lot of guys took these engines to 3 3/8"+.030 or even 3 7/16", so an 1/8" (.125) still leaves you with plenty of meat for the future unless a specific problem exists. You should really talk to your machinist because you should know about any such problems with the block.
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Old 01-21-2021, 06:36 PM   #12
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I reality, I don't kow much about the early cars, other than the trans and reak axles can't stand up to much abuse. In the early street days the 404 Ols engine was king, and cheap, it did't take long before it hot bigger, 324/372?? In 55 the SBC came out and a 283/ Dum cam for $18,75 made more power than 2 flatheads. And then there was the Hemi. Stock cars and racing brought back the flathead. At this point you start by coping what others do, but this way you don't get any better, so you begin to experiment and after 7/8 years we set a track record. You can't believe how proud we were. unfortunately, they??? sabotaged the radiator with small pieces of shop rags . well at least we got their attention.
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and try that Flathead chili recipe in the back of Nostalgia, it's MMM...good
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Old 01-21-2021, 07:49 PM   #14
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Okay, it has been awhile since I have read Ol Ron's book, so I am going to have to get it out and re-read it. And, check out that chili recipe.
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Old 01-22-2021, 12:26 AM   #15
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Okay for us newbies, could someone please point me to 'ol Ron's book? I would love to read it as I am just starting to think about a full rebuild...maybe.


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Okay for us newbies, could someone please point me to 'ol Ron's book? I would love to read it as I am just starting to think about a full rebuild...maybe.


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Old 01-22-2021, 07:13 AM   #17
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You can get either book from Max VP, we need the money.
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Old 01-22-2021, 10:23 AM   #19
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You don't just stick .060 shims under warn weak
springs. There is a spring test machine that shows
the spring pressure at a set height. They should
all be close to the same pressure. G.M.
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Funny! I got your book in the mail today from Van Pelt’s. Really looking forward to reading it thoroughly. Joe
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