The Ford Barn

jkeesey · 10-09-2013, 11:57 AM

Alright guys I found this on the local craigslist and was wondering if anyone can give it a specific ID. It looks like a B but then again it doesn't. The transmission in another picture has the same rear mounts as a v8 so Im thinking some mid 30s industrial. I may be interested in buying it if I can get some more info.

Charlie Stephens · 10-09-2013, 12:11 PM

My guess is that it is a 4 cylinder Ford truck engine out of about 1940. The tractor engine looks similar but does not have a fuel pump (it was gravity feed like the Model A). I am interested in why you would buy it. They are about 120 cubic inches (the Model A/B is about 200) and make a terrible choice to put in a Model A. I am just glad I didn't have to drive the truck it came in.

Charlie Stephens

Rowdy · 10-09-2013, 12:18 PM

I agree on all points with Charlie. Might ask on the V9 forum as it is then there relm of vehicles this likely exists. Although not very desirable. Rod

jkeesey · 10-09-2013, 12:21 PM

Wasn't planning on putting it into a Model A. If the price was cheap enough it would make a cool little doodlebug tractor or maybe a little sprint car or something of that nature.

Charlie Stephens · 10-09-2013, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jkeesey

Wasn't planning on putting it into a Model A. If the price was cheap enough it would make a cool little doodlebug tractor or maybe a little sprint car or something of that nature.

You might want to check on the V8 forum about price and availability of parts to rebuild it. I think a lot of the parts are from the V8 but there might be some that are a problem that you should know about in advance. The price, unless the seller finds some unique individual that needs it (the truck engine will also work in the tractor by blocking off the fuel pump but there were very few 4 cyl trucks built and even fewer restored but I must admit that I did see one at a show one time, a real attention getter) I would assume scrap metal price and negotiate to have him deliver it.

Charlie Stephens

jkeesey · 10-09-2013, 12:34 PM

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Im kind of doing that now. It seems parts are available but not as much or as many as the standard A or B. If I can get it for scrap weight I may give it a go.

Purdy Swoft · 10-09-2013, 12:40 PM

It looks like the 9 N tractor engine that was used in some Ford cars and trucks through 1941. I would be valuable to someone that wanted to restore one of those cars or trucks.

jkeesey · 10-09-2013, 12:43 PM

From what I have been reading the tractor engines did not have the fuel pump, they were gravity feed like the A. Apparently even the original truck guys didn't want these. It was the engine available after the v8 60 and only had 40 horsepower.

Charlie Stephens · 10-09-2013, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jkeesey

From what I have been reading the tractor engines did not have the fuel pump, they were gravity feed like the A. Apparently even the original truck guys didn't want these. It was the engine available after the v8 60 and only had 40 horsepower.

40 HP is one thing but check the torque and RPM where it is taken.

Charlie Stephens

Skrain · 10-09-2013, 01:13 PM

I have a 49 8-N tractor with the front distributor, and it looks a LOT like this motor

10-09-2013, 12:11 PM	#2
Charlie Stephens Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern California Posts: 7,030	Re: I.D. this flathead My guess is that it is a 4 cylinder Ford truck engine out of about 1940. The tractor engine looks similar but does not have a fuel pump (it was gravity feed like the Model A). I am interested in why you would buy it. They are about 120 cubic inches (the Model A/B is about 200) and make a terrible choice to put in a Model A. I am just glad I didn't have to drive the truck it came in. Charlie Stephens

10-09-2013, 12:18 PM	#3
Rowdy BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Gothenburg Nebraska Just off I-80 Posts: 4,893	Re: I.D. this flathead I agree on all points with Charlie. Might ask on the V9 forum as it is then there relm of vehicles this likely exists. Although not very desirable. Rod __________________ Do the RIGHT thing - Support the H.A.M.B. Alliance!!!!

10-09-2013, 12:21 PM	#4
jkeesey Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Glenmoore Pa Posts: 1,644	Re: I.D. this flathead Wasn't planning on putting it into a Model A. If the price was cheap enough it would make a cool little doodlebug tractor or maybe a little sprint car or something of that nature.

10-09-2013, 12:34 PM	#6
jkeesey Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Glenmoore Pa Posts: 1,644	Re: I.D. this flathead Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Im kind of doing that now. It seems parts are available but not as much or as many as the standard A or B. If I can get it for scrap weight I may give it a go.

10-09-2013, 12:40 PM	#7
Purdy Swoft Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Alabama Posts: 8,099	Re: I.D. this flathead It looks like the 9 N tractor engine that was used in some Ford cars and trucks through 1941. I would be valuable to someone that wanted to restore one of those cars or trucks.

10-09-2013, 12:43 PM	#8
jkeesey Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Glenmoore Pa Posts: 1,644	Re: I.D. this flathead From what I have been reading the tractor engines did not have the fuel pump, they were gravity feed like the A. Apparently even the original truck guys didn't want these. It was the engine available after the v8 60 and only had 40 horsepower.

10-09-2013, 01:13 PM	#10
Skrain Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Monticello, Kentucky Posts: 284	Re: I.D. this flathead I have a 49 8-N tractor with the front distributor, and it looks a LOT like this motor __________________ "They can make me grow older, but they CAN'T make me grow up!"