The Ford Barn

caboose · 12-23-2014, 05:14 PM

Some time ago, a barner posted pix and drawings of odd ball bolts, demonstrating a vivid imagination.Unfortunately my searches have not located that post.Maybe one of you will be more successful.Here are three real live “bolts” that I encountered while tinkering on our model A’s.Shortly after getting our roadster, I drove it to Mt Vernon, TX.The starter drive failed me, but I got a push start and made it back to the farm.The gnarled carriage bolt was what I fished out.It appears that the bolt was bent by being driven into the starter drive.The second is a wind wing stud that came in a kit from Mac’s.It may be difficult, or even impossible, for you to see, but the stud is not threaded.What appear to be threads are merely circles.The third is a tie rod end bolt that I got at Piranio’s.Note that the cotter pin hole is off center.I discovered this while lying on my back trying to insert a cotter pin.No go.
Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

Big hammer · 12-23-2014, 06:49 PM

:-) An't it fun keeping your car healthy your staying healthy crawling in out under over
all the way to grandma's house Happy Holidays

Reusing restoring original hardware is always better !

700rpm · 12-23-2014, 07:22 PM

One of the u-bolts on the front spring of my coupe has a cotter hole off center. But enough hole shows that I was able to get a piece of wire through for safety.

700rpm · 12-23-2014, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by caboose

Some time ago, a barner posted pix and drawings of odd ball bolts, demonstrating a vivid imagination.Unfortunately my searches have not located that post.Maybe one of you will be more successful.Here are three real live “bolts” that I encountered while tinkering on our model A’s.Shortly after getting our roadster, I drove it to Mt Vernon, TX.The starter drive failed me, but I got a push start and made it back to the farm.The gnarled carriage bolt was what I fished out.It appears that the bolt was bent by being driven into the starter drive.The second is a wind wing stud that came in a kit from Mac’s.It may be difficult, or even impossible, for you to see, but the stud is not threaded.What appear to be threads are merely circles.The third is a tie rod end bolt that I got at Piranio’s.Note that the cotter pin hole is off center.I discovered this while lying on my back trying to insert a cotter pin.No go.
Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

The wind wing stud has the "universal" thread pattern. It is both right handed and left handed for convenience, so whatever nut you have handy will work. They usually come with a set of holes in case you're using castle nuts. Most suppliers carry inexpensive extra sets of holes, because they're small and easy to misplace.

tbirdtbird · 12-23-2014, 08:40 PM

Ray you are making me chuckle on this. I once bought a stick of 'all thread' (threaded rod) from ACE and had the darndest time trying to get a nut on it. It wasn't threaded! It too was just circles stacked on the rod. I couldn't make something like that if I tried. I had a good laugh with my buddies at ACE when I brought it back

MikeK · 12-23-2014, 09:24 PM

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caboose · 12-23-2014, 09:59 PM

Thanks Mike.

I need to order a box of each.

Montie

boomerusmc · 12-23-2014, 10:27 PM

Holey moley Mike...I'm printing that and putting that on the garage wall ASAP! As a newbie, I'm sure it is gonna save me lotsa headaches.

Kevin in NJ · 12-23-2014, 10:52 PM

I used to work at a toy store, well many moons ago now.

I was putting together a toy box. The darn screw would not work. Hard as I tried it would not start on the nut.

Had threads on the screw, the nut worked fine with another screw. Then I looked close...

The threads were concentric rings!!

bikejunk · 12-23-2014, 11:07 PM

when you go threw box after box of nails and screws you could build a museum of oddities no heads, no slots, no threads, 2 heads- on and on really true if they are from Russia (lots of nails are)

Terry, NJ · 12-24-2014, 08:42 AM

Possibly the the most oddball thread used on the A is the 12-24. This size has not been used (commonly) for years. The size is used on a lot of body tin. Another is the 7/16 - 20 and 9/16 - 16. There are three metric sizes on the A, The bushing size for the springs (Not a thread) They are usually on size, but they used to need reaming with a 14.5 mm drill. The jet in a Zenith carb. It's the only metric used in the carb, 5 X .75 mm and one other is, I believe, the cam lock screw on the Dist. shaft. Why? who knows what Ford was thinking of.

12-23-2014, 05:14 PM	#1
caboose Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Sulphur Springs & Saltillo, Texas Posts: 135	Odd ball bolts, etc. Some time ago, a barner posted pix and drawings of odd ball bolts, demonstrating a vivid imagination.Unfortunately my searches have not located that post.Maybe one of you will be more successful.Here are three real live “bolts” that I encountered while tinkering on our model A’s.Shortly after getting our roadster, I drove it to Mt Vernon, TX.The starter drive failed me, but I got a push start and made it back to the farm.The gnarled carriage bolt was what I fished out.It appears that the bolt was bent by being driven into the starter drive.The second is a wind wing stud that came in a kit from Mac’s.It may be difficult, or even impossible, for you to see, but the stud is not threaded.What appear to be threads are merely circles.The third is a tie rod end bolt that I got at Piranio’s.Note that the cotter pin hole is off center.I discovered this while lying on my back trying to insert a cotter pin.No go. Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

12-23-2014, 06:49 PM	#2
Big hammer Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Land of Lincoln Posts: 3,127	Re: Odd ball bolts, etc. :-) An't it fun keeping your car healthy your staying healthy crawling in out under over all the way to grandma's house Happy Holidays Reusing restoring original hardware is always better !

12-23-2014, 07:22 PM	#3
700rpm Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 5,902	Re: Odd ball bolts, etc. One of the u-bolts on the front spring of my coupe has a cotter hole off center. But enough hole shows that I was able to get a piece of wire through for safety. __________________ Ray Horton, Portland, OR As you go through life, keep your eye on the donut, not the hole.

12-23-2014, 08:40 PM	#5
tbirdtbird BANNED Join Date: May 2012 Location: inside your RAM Posts: 3,134	Re: Odd ball bolts, etc. Ray you are making me chuckle on this. I once bought a stick of 'all thread' (threaded rod) from ACE and had the darndest time trying to get a nut on it. It wasn't threaded! It too was just circles stacked on the rod. I couldn't make something like that if I tried. I had a good laugh with my buddies at ACE when I brought it back __________________ '31 180A

12-23-2014, 09:24 PM	#6
MikeK Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Windy City Posts: 2,919	Re: Odd ball bolts, etc. Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Try these:

12-23-2014, 09:59 PM	#7
caboose Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Sulphur Springs & Saltillo, Texas Posts: 135	Re: Odd ball bolts, etc. Thanks Mike. I need to order a box of each. Montie

12-23-2014, 10:27 PM	#8
boomerusmc Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Stafford, Virginia Posts: 52	Re: Odd ball bolts, etc. Holey moley Mike...I'm printing that and putting that on the garage wall ASAP! As a newbie, I'm sure it is gonna save me lotsa headaches.

12-23-2014, 10:52 PM	#9
Kevin in NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South East NJ Posts: 3,398	Re: Odd ball bolts, etc. I used to work at a toy store, well many moons ago now. I was putting together a toy box. The darn screw would not work. Hard as I tried it would not start on the nut. Had threads on the screw, the nut worked fine with another screw. Then I looked close... The threads were concentric rings!!

12-23-2014, 11:07 PM	#10
bikejunk Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: beautiful down town Passaic NJ Posts: 293	Re: Odd ball bolts, etc. when you go threw box after box of nails and screws you could build a museum of oddities no heads, no slots, no threads, 2 heads- on and on really true if they are from Russia (lots of nails are)

12-24-2014, 08:42 AM	#11
Terry, NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bucks Co, Pa Posts: 3,740	Re: Odd ball bolts, etc. Possibly the the most oddball thread used on the A is the 12-24. This size has not been used (commonly) for years. The size is used on a lot of body tin. Another is the 7/16 - 20 and 9/16 - 16. There are three metric sizes on the A, The bushing size for the springs (Not a thread) They are usually on size, but they used to need reaming with a 14.5 mm drill. The jet in a Zenith carb. It's the only metric used in the carb, 5 X .75 mm and one other is, I believe, the cam lock screw on the Dist. shaft. Why? who knows what Ford was thinking of.