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Old 01-02-2016, 11:06 AM   #1
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Default Starter solenoid needed

I am converting my 51 to 12 v. Can someone suggest a solenoid to use since there are only 6v solenoids for this year.
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Old 01-02-2016, 11:14 AM   #2
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The 6 volt solenoid is more than adequate. Because 6 volt requires more amps to do the same work it is built heavier inside than a 12 volt. If you can get one with the start button on the bottom, it's very handy. Napa should have one and their Echlin brand seems like a better product than some out there.
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Old 01-02-2016, 11:14 AM   #3
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I used the original one and never had a problem
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Old 01-02-2016, 11:15 AM   #4
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1956 up Ford is a 12v solenoid... I've never messed with a 1951, so I don't know whether it's power to actuate, like the 56 Ford, or ground to actuate like my 1939 Ford.

Like others, I would use the 6v...

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Old 01-02-2016, 11:21 AM   #5
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Default Re: Starter solenoid needed

a little off topic, but sorta fits: the model T guys will put an old starter bendix spring in the wire to the starter for a big resistor to slow up the starter and keep the 12 volts from wrecking starter drives. anyone heard of that?
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Old 01-02-2016, 11:51 AM   #6
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Been using the original 6 volt solenoid on my '51 with 12 volts for over 20 years. (must be doing something wrong?)
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Old 01-02-2016, 02:03 PM   #7
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I dunno? My original early38 solenoid just took a dump after converting it to 12v in 1962.

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Old 01-02-2016, 07:40 PM   #8
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I also lost a 6V solenoid. Mounted a '56 up solenoid insulated from ground, ran the POS wire to it and hooked the starter button to the frame of the solenoid. Been working great for over 31 years.
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There are two meanings to 'POS' it can be confusing....
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Yeah, but POS (alternate meaning) does not apply to our Fords.
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a little off topic, but sorta fits: the model T guys will put an old starter bendix spring in the wire to the starter for a big resistor to slow up the starter and keep the 12 volts from wrecking starter drives. anyone heard of that?
I also works to take a starter from a y block or Fe and use the 12v barrel and fields with the flathead starter armature and drive to make a 12v starter that is powerful and does not overspeed... I did it, $20 or so rebuilt starter from Kragen, plus $20 core charge.

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Old 01-02-2016, 11:22 PM   #12
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I think I understand -
POS = Positive
POS = Piece of Sculpture.
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Old 01-03-2016, 07:45 AM   #13
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I use the 12 vt. one called for in the 56 Ford. Works great.
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Yeah, but POS (alternate meaning) does not apply to our Fords.
Of course! But I was referring to the wire, which could have come from who knows where.....Rereading it doesn't make much sense. I do that sometimes. Sorry for any blasphemy I have committed.
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Again, another vote for using the original. Still working after 26 years
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I used an original nos 6 volt on my AV8, has worked great, but the push button did stick on me once.
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Old 01-03-2016, 12:38 PM   #17
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I used this 12V solenoid when I converted my 40 to 12V. They are available at any auto parts place. I by passed the OEM starter button and installed a push button starter switch under the dash as a theft deterent. The OEM buttom is not in use.

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Old 01-03-2016, 02:21 PM   #18
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I used this 12V solenoid when I converted my 40 to 12V. They are available at any auto parts place. I by passed the OEM starter button and installed a push button starter switch under the dash as a theft deterent. The OEM buttom is not in use.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Starter-Sole...-/261275584330
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Old 01-03-2016, 07:07 PM   #19
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I like that idea! LOL
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Old 02-05-2021, 04:43 PM   #20
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Default Re: Starter solenoid needed

I converted my '39 Ford truck from 6V positive ground to 12V negative ground. Everything worked fine when I had a temporary control panel (start button, on/off switch, etc.). In this temporary set-up, I used a 12V starter solenoid. When I wired everything permanently, I used the original 6V solenoid. Does it matter that this solenoid was originally used in a positive ground system? The problem I encountered is when I turned the switch on, the wiring immediately got really hot. I turned it off before anything burned up. A bench check of the solenoid with a 12V battery prior to installation was good. Any suggestions?
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