Pictures of the 39 Frame

[Pech33]

No cancer. Originally a car from Lake Arrowhead, CA.

[Newc]

Yep , it has the 39 dlx/40 front crossmember. Newc

[Kube]

Appears to be '40 "standard" or '39 deluxe.

I hope this frame is very reasonable. It needs a lot of work.

[V8COOPMAN]

Originally Posted by Pech33

No cancer. Originally a car from Lake Arrowhead, CA.

It's NOT necessary to start a whole new thread to add pictures to an existing thread. Begin your post using the "POST REPLY" button ( ) at the BOTTOM, LEFT of every page. All you need is access to that YELLOW SQUARE with MOUNTAINS ( ) to be able to post pictures that are already posted on the internet. To post pictures from your computer, use the PAPER CLIP ( ). Such as these from your original thread! DD






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[Pech33]

What’s reasonable?

[Pech33]

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Like this? If a picture comes up, you are a genius V8Coopman!

It did, GENIUS title conferred on you sir!

[V8COOPMAN]

Originally Posted by Pech33

Like this? If a picture comes up, you are a genius V8Coopman!

It did, GENIUS title conferred on you sir!

Genius? Not hardly! But I am able to appreciate and pay attention to good advice when it is offered. DD

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[Pech33]

So this frame needs both center outer rail to X member brackets, $130 each, the front of the X member on both sides has been gouged out to get the header pipes through. The rear of the X member has also been "hollowed out" on both sides also, like one big mother set of mufflers went through there. Complete media blast. And I get to transport it 1500 miles to where my car is for the summer. What's it worth?

Where is the information on why this car's frame VIN starts with 48? Nowhere on VanPelt's page does it have ANY VIN starting with 48. I was checking the ads for 39 Convertible sedans for sale and the one I found had a vin starting with "48". Was it a special code? I find no mention of it anywhere. The VIN is: Star 4867563 Star.

[36coupe]

Originally Posted by Newc

Yep , it has the 39 dlx/40 front crossmember. Newc

What’s the difference in the early to late front crossmember?

[Kube]

It's difficult to advise you as to what you should pay for that frame. Me? If I really needed it, I might go $400 all in. In other words, $400 by the time it was home.
That frame is going to need a lot of work. IE labor intensive = $$$.
I'd suggest you keep looking.

[Kube]

Originally Posted by 36coupe

What’s the difference in the early to late front crossmember?

No difference. Well, not much anyway. Earlier members had a square hole on each side of the front to accept the bolts for the inner fender braces. Sometime during '40 production, those holes were eliminated.

I made my dating / application noting the spring perch pins in the front are not for a sway bar.
This does appear to be an open car frame. If it were a '40 convertible frame, the perch pins would be designed to accept the swivels for the sway bar.

[tom1948]

except for the tube shocks, that looks a lot like my '48 frame and I agree, that e-brake looks cobbled on. tom

[Kube]

Originally Posted by tom1948

except for the tube shocks, that looks a lot like my '48 frame and I agree, that e-brake looks cobbled on. tom

Someone added the tube shocks.
I've had a number of 46 - 48 Fords and their frames appeared radically different than this one.

[V8COOPMAN]

Originally Posted by Pech33

Where is the information on why this car's frame VIN starts with 48? Nowhere on VanPelt's page does it have ANY VIN starting with 48. I was checking the ads for 39 Convertible sedans for sale and the one I found had a vin starting with "48". Was it a special code? I find no mention of it anywhere. The VIN is: Star 4867563 Star.

If you really want to LEARN, there are a few folks here that can give you some good information. Sometimes, it pays to get the WHOLE STORY!

Now if you want to reference Mac VanPelt's site, he has posted a very comprehensive list of SERIAL numbers. Ford serial numbers from 1932 through 1942...that had V8 ENGINES in them....ALL began with an "18-". After the "18-", there were SEVEN more digits in all of the V8 serial numbers. Each serial number had a STAR on each end. All 1939 V8 serial numbers began with a STAR and a "18-". AFTER the "18-", was a sequential number that went from " -4,661,001 to -5,210,700". All of the 1939 V8 serial numbers went from " 18-4,661,001 to 18-5,210,700 ".

So, that "48" number that you keep referencing is the number that begins AFTER the "18-". So IF your 7-digit sequential number begins with "48", it is likely a car with a number that falls into the "4,800, 000" span of numbers, and should read in whole: "18-4,867, 563 ", with a STAR on each end. If you are open-minded, many of us will gladly help you learn! DD

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[V8COOPMAN]

Originally Posted by tom1948

except for the tube shocks, that looks a lot like my '48 frame and I agree, that e-brake looks cobbled on. tom

The "X" in that frame looks nothing like the way the '46-'48 "X" is made-up. DD

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[Kube]

Originally Posted by tom1948

except for the tube shocks, that looks a lot like my '48 frame and I agree, that e-brake looks cobbled on. tom

Tom, Here's a couple of photographs of what your frame should appear like.
Not even close to a 39 - 40 frame in my opinion.

[Zeke3]

It is amazing the sins that were perpetrated on these chassis to add hydraulic brake pedals or dual exhaust. That chassis looks like it was caught up in a runaway cutting torch.

I repaired the area where the pedals mount to the frame on my '37 frame by patching with a 1/8" plate and then cutting out the hole for the pedals. I tried to buy 10 or 11 gauge, but the closest they had was the 1/8" on hand. I would make patches for the X member holes and butt weld them in. Then redrill the holes as original. As Kube said, a lot of work needed on that chassis. If it is free of rust, it may be worth it.

[Ol' Ron]

Looks like a nice frame, Check for squareness, and weld it up. Probably pretty loose by now.
Gramps

[427heaven]

A quick note on the 39 rolling Vert chassis. I / WE are the proud owners of that chassis and were asking about its vin#. Spoke to Mac Van Pelt today and was told sometimes there are Anomaly's like missing a stamp or variations from cars that came from Canada etc. It is most definitely a 39, the numbers are very clear and are consistent across the chassis and are in the number groupings of Vins for 39s, the E brake was a modal A ...adapted to control movement while moving it around.1939 was the first year for juice brakes, syncro trans, and they did have wide 5 wheels as the CORRECT wheels. Thanks for all your input on our 39 deluxe vert chassis!

[V8COOPMAN]

Originally Posted by 427heaven

A quick note on the 39 rolling Vert chassis. I / WE are the proud owners of that chassis and were asking about its vin#. Spoke to Mac Van Pelt today and was told sometimes there are Anomaly's like missing a stamp or variations from cars that came from Canada etc.

Canadian SERIAL Numbers are entirely different than USA Serial Numbers. Click on the link BELOW for the entire CANADIAN Serial Number story from 1932 thru 1951. DD


http://www.wnyrg.org/canvins.html

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