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Old 04-15-2023, 06:26 AM   #1
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Old 04-15-2023, 10:01 AM   #2
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Thanks Randall. If nothing else, this shows that when the filter is full, there is no lag time in oil pumping to the valve chamber. No issues with the anti-flow back valve. No need to drill or modify the filter.

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Old 04-15-2023, 11:06 AM   #4
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Thanks Randell. If nothing else, this shows that when the filter is full, there is no lag time in oil pumping to the valve chamber. No issues with the anti-flow back valve. No need to drill or modify the filter.

Hopefully this puts the final nail in that coffin.
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Old 04-15-2023, 12:41 PM   #5
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I thought it was DOA ! :-)
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Old 04-15-2023, 05:05 PM   #6
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Hopefully this puts the final nail in that coffin.
Once something like that gets a toehold, it can rise from the dead at any time.
I still hear people saying that overheating can be cured by trimming the impellor and slowing down he water flow through the radiator. That has been debunked sooo many times.
Hopefully, at least some people will take note.
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Old 04-17-2023, 08:19 AM   #7
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Hopefully this puts the final nail in that coffin.
It will never happen as long as the Social Media pages on Model-As are still around. The amount of misinformation, -and even disinformation spread on those pages is unreal.
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Old 04-17-2023, 09:44 AM   #8
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I acknowledge that there is to many questions more than one good / workable answer. However unscientific answers drive me crazy, especially the old wives tales passed along from generation to generation.
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Old 04-18-2023, 05:44 AM   #9
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Thanks Randall

For all the so called experts who said the oil filter was useless you can put this video in you pipe and smoke it lol
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Thanks Randall

For all the so called experts who said the oil filter was useless you can put this video in you pipe and smoke it lol
I'm more into smoking fan belts...
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Old 04-19-2023, 08:16 PM   #11
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Just for conversation sake, how much oil leeched into the valve chamber during the test? This would tell just how much oil is directed through the filter.
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Old 04-20-2023, 08:11 AM   #12
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I'm confused. I just saw Randall's previous video where he tested the passive oil filtration system. When the oil is cold, there is a fair amount of oil going through the filter, which looks fine to me, but when the oil is up to temperature, hardly any oil is going through the passive oil filter system. I understand that the passive oil filter system is less effective than the full filter system, but the amount of oil when the engine is warm seems very small to me. Since I have just partially overhauled my engine (original babbitt bearings) and installed the visually more attractive passive oil filter system, I am now wondering whether the passive oil filter system is sufficient at all or should I switch to a full filter system after all? Has anyone found a similar video that confirms Randall's insight into the passive oil filtration system, or am I panicking unnecessarily?
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Old 04-20-2023, 09:30 AM   #13
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I'm confused. I just saw Randall's previous video where he tested the passive oil filtration system. When the oil is cold, there is a fair amount of oil going through the filter, which looks fine to me, but when the oil is up to temperature, hardly any oil is going through the passive oil filter system. I understand that the passive oil filter system is less effective than the full filter system, but the amount of oil when the engine is warm seems very small to me. Since I have just partially overhauled my engine (original babbitt bearings) and installed the visually more attractive passive oil filter system, I am now wondering whether the passive oil filter system is sufficient at all or should I switch to a full filter system after all? Has anyone found a similar video that confirms Randall's insight into the passive oil filtration system, or am I panicking unnecessarily?
I posted a comment on that video in another thread. He places the filter above the valve chamber, that's why no oil is flowing to it. The oil has two routes to choose from – an unobstructed path to the valve chamber or a restricted path to an outlet several inches above the valve chamber. Not surprisingly, almost all of the oil is being routed to the valve chamber, not to the filter.

The actual bypass filters are mounted below the valve chamber, so gravity works with them, not against them.
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