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Old 09-08-2020, 10:10 AM   #1
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Default Help with an 8BA head.

When I cleaned all the paint off my heads back in March, I broke off whatever was in one of the temperature sender ports. It didnít look like a stock part to me and it was old and brittle and shattered.
I did my best to remove it, but it didnít cooperate.


Could someone tell me what the size and thread the temp senders are? I tried to run a 1/2 -20 tap (the largest one I have) and itís obvious that itís not the correct one. So it has to be at least 5/16, correct?




Basically, Iím looking for what size I need to tap it with and then what I need to put in it, be it a plug or different temp sender.

Thanks Ford Barn, I appreciate the help!

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Old 09-08-2020, 10:37 AM   #2
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Default Re: Help with an 8BA head.

3/8 " pipe tap, that was not a temp sender but the water heater outlet pipe, put a 3/8" brass pipe plug in the tapped out hole with antiseize
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Old 09-08-2020, 11:20 AM   #3
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Default Re: Help with an 8BA head.

Before you retap it with the pipe thread make sure you first obtain the outlet pipe so you can "test fit" the pipe at each turn of the tap. Otherwise you will tap too deep and destroy the "pipe thread" fit which makes it water tight. Use anti seize on the new pipe.
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Old 09-08-2020, 11:26 AM   #4
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Default Re: Help with an 8BA head.

Thank you for the anti seize tip and the test fit idea too.
A 3/8 tap is too small. I am also not currently interested in replacing the heater tap, just plugging it. I guess at this point, I can tap it at whatever next size fits as long as I find a plug that size?
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Old 09-08-2020, 11:51 AM   #5
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Default Re: Help with an 8BA head.

3/8 NPT (National Pipe Thread) Is quite a bit larger than 3/8" SAE which is the standard for nuts and bolts. As mentioned, it is pipe thread.
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Old 09-08-2020, 12:41 PM   #6
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As noted it is a pipe thread and therefore tapered.
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Old 09-08-2020, 01:17 PM   #7
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Old 09-08-2020, 01:21 PM   #8
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You must remove the part of the thread that is in there before you try to retap it . Google how to remove a broken pipe thread and retap the same. I've done quit a few in the past.
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Old 09-08-2020, 01:29 PM   #9
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Ok, I get it now, sorry.
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Old 09-08-2020, 05:35 PM   #10
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It might be easier to get another head. 8BA heads are pretty easy to find. I see you are somewhere in Ohio. I would bet there are at least a dozen within 20 miles of you. The problem is finding them.
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Old 09-08-2020, 05:42 PM   #11
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It might be easier to get another head. 8BA heads are pretty easy to find. I see you are somewhere in Ohio. I would bet there are at least a dozen within 20 miles of you. The problem is finding them.
I believe he has an EAB head, not as common as an 8BA head.
Any way, what he has is an easy fix.
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Old 09-08-2020, 06:57 PM   #12
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Just replace the head
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Old 09-08-2020, 07:14 PM   #13
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Just replace the head

...and send that one to me!


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Old 09-08-2020, 09:40 PM   #14
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I believe he has an EAB head, not as common as an 8BA head.
Any way, what he has is an easy fix.
Yeah, I have always been a sucker for trusting the title of a thread.
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Old 09-09-2020, 10:36 AM   #15
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I have some 8BA heads sitting around if you need them. I’m off I-75 about 20 miles north of Cincinnati, so we’re not exactly neighbors.
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Old 09-09-2020, 01:02 PM   #16
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I'm not sure I see the concern here, isn't the EAB the derisible head? And it would most likely need milled anyway. Unless there is not enough meat left on it, what is the issue?
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I'm not sure I see the concern here, isn't the EAB the derisible head? And it would most likely need milled anyway. Unless there is not enough meat left on it, what is the issue?
The title of his thread is about an 8BA head. He’s being offered 8BA heads. But, the picture he posted is an EAB head. I think this is the cause of the confusion. I know I had to read it a couple times.....Mark

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Old 09-09-2020, 02:11 PM   #18
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The title of his thread is about an 8BA head. Heís being offered 8BA heads. But, the picture he posted is an EAB head. I think this is the cause of the confusion. I know I had to read it a couple times.....Mark

P.S. or are you confusing this with the thread about different sized domes? ........Mark
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Old 09-09-2020, 04:48 PM   #19
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It looks like you still have enough hanging out to work with. I would hit that area with a MAPP torch and some wax. Let it go through a couple of heat/cool cycles. I think you can get it out. Pretty sure the water outlet is steel so welding a nut on it might be the next tactic.

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