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04-08-2018, 10:45 AM | #21 |
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Re: Lincoln Y block
Just saying Somerville isn't the Pilot Plant. Pilot Plant was for pre-production test builds and not available for public purchase. The 2x4 set up wasn't released until later in the '56 model year through dealers.
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Did you read all of the referring URL's I posted?
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04-08-2018, 04:06 PM | #23 |
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This is the URL you posted that shows the pilot plant I was referring to. Now used to help develop assembly lines for new products. They also used to build Lincolns and Edsels there in the 50's.
I worked at Ford in powertrain engineering for about 24 years, and went there many times to look at vehicles, or go to meetings. It's the only Pilot Plant I was ever aware of at Ford. Sal https://macsmotorcitygarage.com/the-...ed-auto-plant/ |
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So what I am reading is that the Pilot Plant (or designation) was moved from MA to Dearborn with the MA plant closing.
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The below quoted post from thread- http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/Topic137290.aspx
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I believe the plant claim confusion comes from the (a) period ASM PLANT CODE CHART (shown in an above post) shows S as being the Pilot Plant which was originally/actually (SOMMERVILLE ASM). The 49/59 FINAL ISSUE MPC chart for example does not show an S ASSEMBLY PLANT. Somewhere, someone has the true history of the period. I believe the seller's PILOT PLANT claim was due to a misprint/mistake in the PLANT CHART. In all actuality, the S ENGINE CODE 312's most likely turned up across many final assembly plants. BTW- It is funny that all of this started with the OP wanting to know if the LYB would fit into a 56 F100 chassis and not a 56 PASS CAR.
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The decoding chart shown below reads 49/59 but the chart is actually from the 60/64 MPC (or earlier edition(s). This explains where the confusion began I believe. The 56 FARIRLANE Victoria in question has a build code of 8H (08 AUG) which when compared to the mislabeled chart would lead one to believe that the car was built in Somerville and it was wrongfully thought to be a PILOT PLANT which it wasn't. So Sal, you were correct and I was wrong ... ...er ... misinformed ... If FORD did release a 56 FORD with the LYB 368 for POLICE only, it most likely would have been catalogued in the POLICE CATALOG - Same as the 1958 POLICE 361. It was not catalogued in the MPC.
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06-04-2018, 07:56 PM | #28 |
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KULTULZ,
Thanks for all of your research ! I wasn't trying to be right about anything. I was just stating things I knew to be true from my experiences at Ford. Sal |
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I don't care about being wrong or right but just trying to figure things out. In this example of a vehicle description, I don't think anything was being represented fraudulently but just going with available knowledge. Somewhere all of this info must be available. As with the recent 60 FORD HP vehicle description example, big money can be spent for something that is not exactly correct. There is much knowledge here (forum) when it is put all together.
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The post was hi-jacked by myself as I mis-read LT for PASS CAR. A BENDSTEN adapter would allow use of a modern trans (IMO).
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06-05-2018, 04:40 AM | #31 |
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Will a Y Lincoln fit in a 1956? Most will say no. But it is really a yes if you can find
these parts from any F700 up: front motor mount, bellhousing , ram exhaust manifolds. The rear bellhousing mounts are the same. Only thing is and maybe a good thing, is for the bellhousing you need 5sp transmission hopefully a overdrive, then mess with the driveshaft. The fast and easy is a FE with FT front mount, ram exhaust either standard with light duty 3 or 4speed or automatic. My three 1953 to1956 trucks I slid 391FTs in there fit like they belong there all parts like exhaust pipes etc on the shelf Napa all have Clark 5sp Od. Back when I put a 430 in a 1950 F8 most don't know that FE FT bellhousing fit MEL blocks. I redrilled the flathead flywheel to the 430 to use flathead starter. Now flip exhaust manifolds so they dump in the front to clear steer box. Talk about a deep throat sound and blow the doors off any truck loaded but 3 mpg . So bottom line is I would go with FE : Y blocks, MELs are now tough to find but do as you wish. or find a truck 302 or 332 Y block setup used into the 1960s. Sam my proof is I did all this. |
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HEY big job!
THANX! for that info. It really helps. Just one thing- Quote:
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I just wanted to mention it so somebody won't be cussin' you...
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Would you believe I saved the PATENT PLATE photo of the 56 with a 368 LYB install? This was the car that started the S-CODE 368 PI rumor. It also shows the mis-assembled engines went to other assembly plants other than Somerville - SAN JOSE ASSEMBLY PLANT
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17000 OAKWOOD BLVD. ALLEN PARK, MI.
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I know the thread as a whole is two years old but, I'll update this post/reply when I have some more pictures to post. I have a Lincoln 317 in my '56 F100. I believe that the exact parts you listed above are what was used for my truck's swap except for the transmission. I have a T98 4 speed instead of the Clark 5 speed. Last edited by ZSK; 07-19-2018 at 11:28 AM. |
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THANX! for the info ...
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