The Ford Barn

nospartsman · 01-01-2016, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ken/Alabama

Ambulance wheels.

getting colder, ambulance would fall into the category of non production vehicle. The vehicle with these hubcaps could have been sitting in a Ford dealershi showroom.

petehoovie · 01-01-2016, 06:38 PM

1941 ford 1 ton express

Bob C · 01-01-2016, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by nospartsman

I could be wrong but I think 1940-41 only offered a vehicle called the tonner and it took this cap(cap on the right for size comparison). The 3/4 ton was offered later. (I think)

The green book shows a 3/4 ton starting in 1940.

Bob

nospartsman · 01-01-2016, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by petehoovie

1941 ford 1 ton express

As far as I know all the tonner chassis 1940-41 took the large V8 hubcap in this photo. The hubcap this tread is about attaches the same as a 1936-39 cap.

Bob C · 01-01-2016, 06:54 PM

According to my Hollander Interchange the 40-47 3/4Ton used the same
bolt pattern as the 36-39 car.

Bob

ford38v8 · 01-01-2016, 06:57 PM

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1941 Ford Commercial cars and pickups continued using the wide 5 wheels, and had the Ford script hubcaps without the V8 imprint, due to the choice of engines available V8, 6, and 4. The hubcap you picture is one of these.

I'm not so sure about it being the rarest hubcap, though, as the Ford/Mercury hubcap was replaced very early in the 1939 production year, leaving off the Ford.

petehoovie · 01-01-2016, 07:00 PM

1941 Ford Panel Delivery Truck

oldford2 · 01-01-2016, 07:06 PM

[QUOTE=nospartsman;1216124]

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Originally Posted by oldford2

Not true. 2 V8's, 6 cylinder, 4 cylinder for the trucks and you said vehicles.[/QUOTE They offered two v8s but did not offer 4cyl or 6cyl, so 1939 pickup shared a V8 hubcap with 1939 Standard

As an NOS "expert" why do you keep denying the availability of 6 and 4 cylinder engines in 1939? Better do your homework and if you are wrong, how about a correction.

V8COOPMAN · 01-01-2016, 07:11 PM

[QUOTE=oldford2;1216204]

Quote:

Originally Posted by nospartsman

As an NOS "expert" why do you keep denying the availability of 6 and 4 cylinder engines in 1939? Better do your homework and if you are wrong, how about a correction.

Well I've never heard of a 4 or a 6 offered in a Ford other than a tractor in 1939, but what the hell do I know? DD

petehoovie · 01-01-2016, 07:18 PM

1940 Ford Fordor Convertible Sedan....

rockfla · 01-01-2016, 07:18 PM

Can't be more rare than the spider type Ford Mercury hub caps featured in V8 Times a few issues back!!!!

ford38v8 · 01-01-2016, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by oldford2

As an NOS "expert" why do you keep denying the availability of 6 and 4 cylinder engines in 1939? Better do your homework and if you are wrong, how about a correction.[/SIZE][/FONT]

Sounds like the only expert here is damn good at breaking balls.

deuce_roadster · 01-01-2016, 07:31 PM

I've never heard of a 6 as early as 39 and as stated in 39 4s were in tractors. US anyway. Some oddball thing from Europe might be in play.
I have seen a Ford bomb carrier (that went under the wings and hoisted bombs up) but don't know if it had any hubcaps!

Fordors · 01-01-2016, 07:45 PM

I'm going with '39 Panel Delivery, 112" WB.
BTW, info I have says 4 cylinder was introduced on Sept. 24, 1940 along with the all new 90 HP six for the '41 Commercials.

35fordtn · 01-01-2016, 07:57 PM

I would as well think both early versions of the 1939 Mercury cap are equally as rare.

petehoovie · 01-01-2016, 07:59 PM

Identification 1941 Ford Truck & Commercial

mercman from oz · 01-01-2016, 08:02 PM

This Hubcap is the Accessory Full Stainless Steel Hubcap that was offered for the 1939 Mercury. As you can see from the picture, it covers most of the wheel. In fact the outside diameter is larger than the standard 1939 Mercury hubcap. This was Mercurys equivalent of the Ford Spyder Hubcap. I would rate this hubcap rarer that the one that is shaped like the 1939 Ford, but has the Ford Script, rather than a V8 emblem, the subject of this Post.

mercman from oz · 01-01-2016, 08:09 PM

Rarest of the rare. In my Post above, I showed a picture of the very rare Accessory 1939 Mercury Full Stainless Steel Hubcap, however, there is an even rarer hubcap, and that is the forerunner to the Hubcap pictured in my previous Post. It is the same shape and style, but shows Ford Mercury on the face, rather than just Mercury. These Ford Mercury Hubcaps were only on the very first models, before the "Ford" name was deleted, and the hubcaps became just "Mercury" a few weeks later. The small one in the centre is actually just the Skin from the standard early 1939 Mercury and reads Ford Mercury. All of these Hubcaps are extremely rare. Unfortunately, they are not mine, but would love to add one of each to my Mercury Hubcap collection.

nospartsman · 01-01-2016, 08:13 PM

[QUOTE=oldford2;1216204]

Quote:

Originally Posted by nospartsman

As an NOS "expert" why do you keep denying the availability of 6 and 4 cylinder engines in 1939? Better do your homework and if you are wrong, how about a correction.

6 cyl and 4 cyl engines existed in 1939, they just weren't sold in 1939 Ford vehicles, as others have tried to tell you. I think you're taking this way way too serious, this was meant to be light hearted New Years day entertainment. No where did I say I am an expert, in fact I mention just the opposite if you read some of the comments.
The burden of proof lies with you, show me some evidence that a 1939 Ford USA production vehicle offered a 4 cylinder and a 6 cylinder engine and I'll give you a $100. (tractors don't count, nor does a 1940 Ford sold in Sept, Oct, Nov, Dec of 1939) I'm hearing a chorus of crickets

petehoovie · 01-01-2016, 08:15 PM

1940 Ford Deluxe Sedan Delivery....

See another one here > https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/SC0...ivery/3-Speed/

01-01-2016, 06:38 PM	#22
petehoovie Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 8,117	Re: The rarest Ford hubcap in existence 1941 ford 1 ton express __________________ The only thing nice about being imperfect is the joy it brings to others.... *"Silver rings, your butt! Them's washers!"* "We shot our way out of that town for a dollar's worth of steel holes!" - from 'The Wild Bunch' - 1969 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NReUd2_0u0 Last edited by petehoovie; 01-01-2016 at 06:56 PM.

01-01-2016, 06:54 PM	#25
Bob C Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: So Cal Posts: 8,747	Re: The rarest Ford hubcap in existence According to my Hollander Interchange the 40-47 3/4Ton used the same bolt pattern as the 36-39 car. Bob

01-01-2016, 06:57 PM	#26
ford38v8 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 6,641	Re: The rarest Ford hubcap in existence Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) 1941 Ford Commercial cars and pickups continued using the wide 5 wheels, and had the Ford script hubcaps without the V8 imprint, due to the choice of engines available V8, 6, and 4. The hubcap you picture is one of these. I'm not so sure about it being the rarest hubcap, though, as the Ford/Mercury hubcap was replaced very early in the 1939 production year, leaving off the Ford. __________________ Alan

01-01-2016, 07:00 PM	#27
petehoovie Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 8,117	Re: The rarest Ford hubcap in existence 1941 Ford Panel Delivery Truck __________________ The only thing nice about being imperfect is the joy it brings to others.... *"Silver rings, your butt! Them's washers!"* "We shot our way out of that town for a dollar's worth of steel holes!" - from 'The Wild Bunch' - 1969 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NReUd2_0u0 Last edited by petehoovie; 01-01-2016 at 08:35 PM.

01-01-2016, 07:18 PM	#30
petehoovie Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 8,117	Re: The rarest Ford hubcap in existence 1940 Ford Fordor Convertible Sedan.... __________________ The only thing nice about being imperfect is the joy it brings to others.... *"Silver rings, your butt! Them's washers!"* "We shot our way out of that town for a dollar's worth of steel holes!" - from 'The Wild Bunch' - 1969 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NReUd2_0u0 Last edited by petehoovie; 01-01-2016 at 07:27 PM.

01-01-2016, 07:18 PM	#31
rockfla Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Jacksonville FL Posts: 3,950	Re: The rarest Ford hubcap in existence Can't be more rare than the spider type Ford Mercury hub caps featured in V8 Times a few issues back!!!!

01-01-2016, 07:31 PM	#33
deuce_roadster Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Shelton, WA Posts: 3,800	Re: The rarest Ford hubcap in existence I've never heard of a 6 as early as 39 and as stated in 39 4s were in tractors. US anyway. Some oddball thing from Europe might be in play. I have seen a Ford bomb carrier (that went under the wings and hoisted bombs up) but don't know if it had any hubcaps!

01-01-2016, 07:45 PM	#34
Fordors Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Orland Park,IL Posts: 1,402	Re: The rarest Ford hubcap in existence I'm going with '39 Panel Delivery, 112" WB. BTW, info I have says 4 cylinder was introduced on Sept. 24, 1940 along with the all new 90 HP six for the '41 Commercials. __________________ My school colors are black and blue, I attended the School of Hard Knocks where I received a Masters Degree in Chronic Mopery.

01-01-2016, 07:57 PM	#35
35fordtn Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: McMinnville, TN Posts: 2,327	Re: The rarest Ford hubcap in existence I would as well think both early versions of the 1939 Mercury cap are equally as rare.

01-01-2016, 07:59 PM	#36
petehoovie Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 8,117	Re: The rarest Ford hubcap in existence Identification 1941 Ford Truck & Commercial __________________ The only thing nice about being imperfect is the joy it brings to others.... *"Silver rings, your butt! Them's washers!"* "We shot our way out of that town for a dollar's worth of steel holes!" - from 'The Wild Bunch' - 1969 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NReUd2_0u0

01-01-2016, 08:02 PM	#37
mercman from oz Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 10,361	Re: The rarest Ford hubcap in existence This Hubcap is the Accessory Full Stainless Steel Hubcap that was offered for the 1939 Mercury. As you can see from the picture, it covers most of the wheel. In fact the outside diameter is larger than the standard 1939 Mercury hubcap. This was Mercurys equivalent of the Ford Spyder Hubcap. I would rate this hubcap rarer that the one that is shaped like the 1939 Ford, but has the Ford Script, rather than a V8 emblem, the subject of this Post.

01-01-2016, 08:09 PM	#38
mercman from oz Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 10,361	Re: The rarest Ford hubcap in existence Rarest of the rare. In my Post above, I showed a picture of the very rare Accessory 1939 Mercury Full Stainless Steel Hubcap, however, there is an even rarer hubcap, and that is the forerunner to the Hubcap pictured in my previous Post. It is the same shape and style, but shows Ford Mercury on the face, rather than just Mercury. These Ford Mercury Hubcaps were only on the very first models, before the "Ford" name was deleted, and the hubcaps became just "Mercury" a few weeks later. The small one in the centre is actually just the Skin from the standard early 1939 Mercury and reads Ford Mercury. All of these Hubcaps are extremely rare. Unfortunately, they are not mine, but would love to add one of each to my Mercury Hubcap collection.

01-01-2016, 08:15 PM	#40
petehoovie Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 8,117	Re: The rarest Ford hubcap in existence 1940 Ford Deluxe Sedan Delivery.... See another one here > https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/SC0...ivery/3-Speed/ __________________ The only thing nice about being imperfect is the joy it brings to others.... *"Silver rings, your butt! Them's washers!"* "We shot our way out of that town for a dollar's worth of steel holes!" - from 'The Wild Bunch' - 1969 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NReUd2_0u0 Last edited by petehoovie; 01-01-2016 at 08:29 PM.