tesla Truck

[Tinker]

Ya I know this is not the right forum. But we have opinions.


I can't call it a true truck but I like it. I'm weird.


I also think if Ford turned out a basic truck at a cheap price (25-30k) it'd sell well. no fancy electronics and a bit of power with a new multi-geared modern speed transmission. Lot of dudes want a basic crawler. I can actually open a tailgate, I don't need assistance.



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[Russ/40]

I look at that thing and my first reaction is to think they are pulling our leg. They can't be serious.

[Tinker]

Russ people hated the delorean too (I'd like to own a delorean). It's different. Not a true truck with a bed. But can pull stuff. Better looking then the K car or the Chevy Aztec.

[tomcarman]

Originally Posted by Tinker

Ya I know this is not the right forum. But we have opinions.


I can't call it a true truck but I like it. I'm weird.


I also think if Ford turned out a basic truck at a cheap price (25-30k) it'd sell well. no fancy electronics and a bit of power with a new multi-geared modern speed transmission. Lot of dudes want a basic crawler. I can actually open a tailgate, I don't need assistance.



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Right forum or not is for individuals to decide. My opinion is in the future this technology will prevail. I also completely agree that if Ford, (or other manufacturerers) produced a basic truck/car without all the computerized doodads at a reasonable price they would make a killing. Agreed, I can open my own tailgait...etc. In my experience so far in the electronic age if it is electronic is doomed to fail, sooner rather than later. History repeats itself in some ways, given the technology of an era failures have always occured. That is why we still tinker with our old cars.I welcome divergent opinions regarding technology on this thread even if it doesn't fit EFV8 diagnostics/etc. Afterall, when you're green you grow, when you're ripe you rot.

[Digger]

Ridiculous, talk about this POS somewhere else without polluting this site

[qickkenny]

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I agree with Tinker, Ford needs to build a work truck for people who can afford it !

[oldandtired]

Had my F-250 for 17 years. No floor mats, no power locks or windows, vinyl seat. Replaced the battery a couple of times and the fuel pump after 16 years. I did add cruise control to it. The truck I replaced it with actually annoys me with all of the electronic "stuff." I do like the electric adjustable side mirrors. When I bought it, I was treated to a 30 minute or so hard sell effort by the guy who handles the paperwork trying to get me to buy an extended warranty because of all the electronics on the vehicle, "and they do go out." He even had a module sitting on the desk as a prop to show me. He said there were several in the vehicle but the main one cost over $4500 if it went bad. The "Basic" extended warranty came to over $700/year which would be $3500 for five years added to the price of the vehicle and the top warranty was well over $100/month. Basically what he did was spend half an hour telling me how unreliable their product was.

[34PKUP]

Originally Posted by Tinker

Russ people hated the delorean too (I'd like to own a delorean). It's different. Not a true truck with a bed. But can pull stuff. Better looking then the K car or the Chevy Aztec.

"Chevy" Aztec, really?

[1931 flamingo]

2019 vette=80K, pickup next to it was also 80K. Rediculous
JMO

Paul in CT

[Kube]

Originally Posted by Tinker

Ya I know this is not the right forum. But we have opinions.


I can't call it a true truck but I like it. I'm weird.


I also think if Ford turned out a basic truck at a cheap price (25-30k) it'd sell well. no fancy electronics and a bit of power with a new multi-geared modern speed transmission. Lot of dudes want a basic crawler. I can actually open a tailgate, I don't need assistance.



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You, like the rest of the folks will start to call it a truck if that's what tesla calls it. Just think of all the station wagons on the road that folks call SUV's. Cut the crap marketing department, they are station wagons.
Sport Utility Vehicles? Really? I suppose for the millions of moms that won't drive a "wagon" it's one way to sell them one... just convince them it's "sporty".
Ya can put a dress on a pig - it's still a pig.

[RalphG]

The Tesla truck is pretty ugly. If I had to drive an electric it would be one like this 49 Mercury built by Johnathon Ward of "Icon Derelict" fame.
And yes, if Ford built a brand new 70s vintage pickup I'd buy it rather than anything new on the market today. Too much expensive, complicated electronic junk doomed to fail. I don't need all that but I guess it helps sell to the "yuppies".

[5851a]

Originally Posted by Kube

You, like the rest of the folks will start to call it a truck if that's what tesla calls it. Just think of all the station wagons on the road that folks call SUV's. Cut the crap marketing department, they are station wagons.
Sport Utility Vehicles? Really? I suppose for the millions of moms that won't drive a "wagon" it's one way to sell them one... just convince them it's "sporty".
Ya can put a dress on a pig - it's still a pig.

I been telling my wife for years they are just wagons. She hates wagon's except woodies, so if I sneak home a country squire I should be ok.

[51 MERC-CT]

Guess it is sort of a pickup truck

[ford38v8]

Originally Posted by Kube

You, like the rest of the folks will start to call it a truck if that's what tesla calls it. Just think of all the station wagons on the road that folks call SUV's. Cut the crap marketing department, they are station wagons.
Sport Utility Vehicles? Really? I suppose for the millions of moms that won't drive a "wagon" it's one way to sell them one... just convince them it's "sporty".
Ya can put a dress on a pig - it's still a pig.

If you remember, the truck and SUV popularity got its major boost back in the 70's ? 80's ? when they were exempted out of the SMOG certs of the day, while hitting passenger cars with heavier requirements. Whether or not there is still a different SMOG class for them is not as important as the perception of a remaining exemption.

[cas3]

new fangled pickups, i always say if nobody bought em, they would quit maken em. i hope to be driving my 89 diesel dodge until i am toes up. no computer, you dont have to be 6'8 to grab something out of the box, and when you open the hood theres a motor in the middle and you can see the ground on both sides. the one i miss was my 63 ford one ton. metal door panels, metal dash, rubber floor etc. i entertain the idea of finding a nice one and drop the cummins into it, but there is too much on my plate already. we will all probably have a tesla when they tax the gas burners off the roads

[Bored&Stroked]

That Tesla 'Truck' is the ugliest design I have ever seen on a modern vehicle . . . you couldn't give me one. There is not a curve on it anyplace - looks like some highschool kids made it out of sheets of plywood painted silver.

Whew - now I feel better . . . maybe too much coffee this AM!

[4t8v8]

Yeah! And it has shatterproof windows! Almost.

[JSeery]

I love the electronics in my 2019! There is an almost endless supply of about any year vehicle you could want. I have several.

[Ronnie]

You know what is uglier than that electric POS "answer" 2 of them.


R

[JSeery]

Have to agree with that!

[mhsprecher]

I think it is ugly, too. There will be competition, so let’s see what else comes out.

I have a stripper 2006 F-150 w/ a V6 and a 5 spd manual. I would like electric windows and mirror as it is hard to reach across and open or adjust both. I’d like cruise, too. It’ll get 20 mpg on the highway. Too light for towing a car, though, darn it.

[drolston]

'34 pickup is all we need for hauling feed to the barn and flathead engines to and from the machine shop. But ….

I wanted to hate the Tesla truck, but it is awesome in a weird Back-to-the-Future way.

[J Franklin]

They stole the design, shame shame!

https://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.H...=0&w=370&h=209

[cas3]

i just got back from a trip to the gas station, it caused me to think of one good reason to own an electric car, and that is you wouldnt have to listen to the stupid "gas station TV " spewing out nonsense about the kardashians or some sports headlines while fueling up. ok, i'll move on now

[Kube]

Originally Posted by cas3

i just got back from a trip to the gas station, it caused me to think of one good reason to own an electric car, and that is you wouldnt have to listen to the stupid "gas station TV " spewing out nonsense about the kardashians or some sports headlines while fueling up. ok, i'll move on now

The kardashian's? Who are they?

[Desoto291Hemi]

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The best part is how the windows held up to the test,,,,,Not!

Musk is like a modern day PT Barnum.

There is a sucker born every minute!

Also,,,that design is so ugly and bad,,,I can’t look at it.

Tommy

[tubman]

Originally Posted by mhsprecher

I think it is ugly, too. There will be competition, so let’s see what else comes out.

I have a stripper 2006 F-150 w/ a V6 and a 5 spd manual. I would like electric windows and mirror as it is hard to reach across and open or adjust both. I’d like cruise, too. It’ll get 20 mpg on the highway. Too light for towing a car, though, darn it.

That's surprising. I have the same rig, only a 1999. I have a Featherlight car hauler and have used it to transport many cars. The largest were Corvettes and my '51 Coupe, but never a care. Now my 22 ft Chaparral with a 260 Mercruiser was another story, but I did get it from the Minneapolis suburbs to Brainerd with no problem. I did spend a lot of time in third and fourth gears though!

[51 MERC-CT]

First fill-up after conversion.

[Bored&Stroked]

Hey 51 Merc - that is pretty funny . . . I may have to do that with my 32 Cabriolet sometime . . . just for shits and giggles!

[PeteVS]

It looks like an assault truck.

[Ford Freak]

I am not familiar with Kardashion . Are they electric or gas ?

[corvette8n]

It's Tesla's freak show, glass that breaks, ugly looking, and not much load capacity, did you see the way the back end squatted when the atv rode in.

[moonraker]

[V8COOPMAN]

51 Merc....I actually got a laugh out of your picture. But here's the real deal....a '49 Merc "Icon" DERELICT, engineered and built in the shops of Jonathan Ward...a 470 ft. lb. electric powered, totally built from scratch modern-type chassis, suspension and running gear, and a completely re-engineered dash board and interior in keeping with the look and feel of the original late '40s time frame. Ward has an entire shop and staff turning these nostalgic, updated "sleepers" out the door, with customers standing in line to spend DEEP into six-figure territory to have their "Icon-ic" rides transformed. The first link tells the story behind this Merc. The second link is a video detailing another of Wards phenomenal "Derelict" transformations...a '50 Buick convertible... that has been modernized to the nth degree, sans the nifty paint and chrome. Third link is a '46 Olds they did that is just WAY over the top! Enjoy...DD


https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/i...r-first-drive/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO4866ReXBs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwh8KbH0sPA

[JSeery]

I was really interested in electric conversions a few years back. They are fairly simple, not that expensive and the information and parts are available, until you get to the batteries!!!
Just could not find a good alternative, there are weight, size or cost issues. Gave up on the whole idea. It can be done if you can overcome the battery issue.

[scicala]

[QUOTE=Ronnie;1824403]You know what is uglier than that electric POS "answer" 2 of them.




Amen !

[V8COOPMAN]

Originally Posted by JSeery

…...until you get to the batteries!!!
Just could not find a good alternative, there are weight, size or cost issues. Gave up on the whole idea. It can be done if you can overcome the battery issue.

You're absolutely right about all the battery "negatives"...pardon the pun! Think about the growing number of battery-powered cars that are on the road today. I'm sure many have been sparkin'-along long enough now that battery REPLACEMENTS are probably becoming more prevalent. Imagine how many of those owners never contemplated the huge costs and what's involved to replace a battery pack. The cost must be in the $$$thousands. DD

[V8COOPMAN]

[QUOTE=scicala;1824583]

Originally Posted by Ronnie

You know what is uglier than that electric POS "answer" 2 of them.




Amen !

Yeah, but I'll bet that 470 ft. lbs. of torque makes your face look funny accelerating from a light. DD

[Ronnie]

[QUOTE=V8COOPMAN;1824596]

Originally Posted by scicala

Yeah, but I'll bet that 470 ft. lbs. of torque makes your face look funny accelerating from a light. DD

Nope not a chance I have no interest in that truck at all.Riding in that you would have to a bag over your head so no one would spot you,and rat you out. I have a friend that has a shotgun ford in a cobra car now that is a sweet ride I have been in it.


R

[V8COOPMAN]

[QUOTE=Ronnie;1824600]

Originally Posted by V8COOPMAN

Nope not a chance I have no interest in that truck at all.Riding in that you would have to a bag over your head so no one would spot you,and rat you out. I have a friend that has a shotgun ford in a cobra car now that is a sweet ride I have been in it.


R

I wouldn't be caught dead in that truck, either...no siree! I was talking about the electric '49 Merc. DD

[Kube]

Originally Posted by Desoto291Hemi

The best part is how the windows held up to the test,,,,,Not!

Musk is like a modern day PT Barnum.

There is a sucker born every minute!

Also,,,that design is so ugly and bad,,,I can’t look at it.

Tommy

Just for the record Tommy... P.T. Barnum never said that.

[51 MERC-CT]

Originally Posted by V8COOPMAN

51 Merc....I actually got a laugh out of your picture. But here's the real deal....a '49 Merc "Icon" DERELICT, engineered and built in the shops of Jonathan Ward...a 470 ft. lb. electric powered, totally built from scratch modern-type chassis, suspension and running gear, and a completely re-engineered dash board and interior in keeping with the look and feel of the original late '40s time frame. Ward has an entire shop and staff turning these nostalgic, updated "sleepers" out the door, with customers standing in line to spend DEEP into six-figure territory to have their "Icon-ic" rides transformed. The first link tells the story behind this Merc. The second link is a video detailing another of Wards phenomenal "Derelict" transformations...a '50 Buick convertible... that has been modernized to the nth degree, sans the nifty paint and chrome. Third link is a '46 Olds they did that is just WAY over the top! Enjoy...DD


https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/i...r-first-drive/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO4866ReXBs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwh8KbH0sPA

Thanks for the links.
I have been aware of the '49 Merc. for it seems like a couple of years now and have given some thought to marrying my '51's body to Tesla components but at this point it's just a dream.

[RalphM]

What a POS!
Wouldn’t be caught dead in one of those.

[TJ]

Those electric vehicles could not be produced without energy from sources like coal, natural gas, petroleum products, etc. If Musk didn't get government subsidies he would be out of business. He's been riding on our dime for too long and we should not be giving incentives(tax money) to buy electric vehicles.

[34fordy]

Butt ugly for sure. My Grampa was a dray line man driving horses to make deliveries in his father's business in Cedar Falls, Iowa in the 1880s. I can only imagine their discust when Henry Ford put Model T cars on "his" roads. Grampa died in 1953, almost 90 and never bought a car. He became an engineer on the Illinois Central railroad. In 1952 my dad bought our first car, a 48 Plymouth. We took Gramma and Grampa for a ride. I was only 7 but I remember neither one was impressed. The future is coming whether we like the looks or not. To me, none of the cars Ford made after 1934 are beautiful to me. I am sure the guys with later models feel their cars are beautiful. And that is why the young generation will acclimate to these futuristic designs. It may not seem like progress but it is coming folks!

[Bob T]

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Pathetic. I'm amazed they had the guts to show a design as bad as that. As far as electric..... no thanks

[mhsprecher]

Tubman, I will try my truck with a trailer. I looked at the specs in the owner’s manual and it seemed that I could tow a Model A. I guess as I get older I worry about safety a bit more than I once did.

[tomcarman]

Originally Posted by JSeery

I was really interested in electric conversions a few years back. They are fairly simple, not that expensive and the information and parts are available, until you get to the batteries!!!
Just could not find a good alternative, there are weight, size or cost issues. Gave up on the whole idea. It can be done if you can overcome the battery issue.

Forward thinking as technology gets better, same as in 32 when Ford introduced the Flat head V8. I have several ideas that have been floating around in my head for a number of years regarding electric powered vehicles. Here's one idea: Supposing one didn't have to totally rely on a recharging station, but rather had a small Briggs and Stratton type engine that would automatically start and recharge your battery enroute as needed. Supposing if this option were avalaible the battery capacity/weght/cost could be reduced to propel the vehicle and the engine could power a generator to accomplish this. This technology already exists. I'm sure many of you have a generator already. Do away with most of the fancy electronics. We already have deep cycle marine batteries that are rechargeable over and over again. In this scenario one could potentially have a vehicle that gets incredible milage.I remember clearly when I was a kid we could fill up the homebuilt minibike for a quarter and ride all day. That was when my Dad wouldn't buy gas if it was over 30 cents/ gallon. I have other ideas if anyone is interested in reading them.

[dumb person]

It has the same problem all modern 'pickups' have. Nobody can reach something in the tray. They're either 5 feet or more off the ground or the sides are 7 feet tall. How does anyone get something from the tool-box near the cab without a stepladder?

Originally Posted by 1931 flamingo

2019 vette=80K, pickup next to it was also 80K. Rediculous
JMO

Paul in CT

The way i see it, the only people who buy those are doing it with company money as a tax write-off.

Originally Posted by cas3

new fangled pickups, i always say if nobody bought em, they would quit maken em.

True!

Originally Posted by oldandtired

Had my F-250 for 17 years. No floor mats, no power locks or windows, vinyl seat. Replaced the battery a couple of times and the fuel pump after 16 years. I did add cruise control to it. The truck I replaced it with actually annoys me with all of the electronic "stuff."
I was treated to a 30 minute or so hard sell effort by the guy who handles the paperwork trying to get me to buy an extended warranty because of all the electronics on the vehicle, "and they do go out."Basically what he did was spend half an hour telling me how unreliable their product was.

I'm not sure how car companies can live with themselves when they know the electronic parts are so rubbish. Someone i know has a 2018 exploder, or whatever replaced the exploder, and a minor parking dent broke a $4000 radar something-or-other. Not logical to make anything like that.

Originally Posted by Russ/40

I look at that thing and my first reaction is to think they are pulling our leg. They can't be serious.

I can't decide if it's a film prop or serious.

[Desoto291Hemi]

Sorry Kube,
I should have stated that it was told he coined the phrase.
There is no direct evidence of him saying that,,,just that it was attributed to him.
However,,,if you look at his start and how he ran his business,,,,entertainment,,,,all through his life,,,you can see how that could have easily happened.

But,,, the Tesla truck seems like something Musk and his people threw together,, quick and dirty,,,just to get press . Look at the ATV riding into the bed,, how the truck moves.
A poor prototype at best,,,but I’m sure he will get it better.
The part I thought was stupid was how the windows failed.

You would think someone there had done a pre test to be certain that the glass worked correctly.

Tommy

[KGS]

Originally Posted by PeteVS

It looks like an assault truck.

That's because it was designed by the same guy that designed it's

older cousin...

[shew01]

Originally Posted by Kube

You, like the rest of the folks will start to call it a truck if that's what tesla calls it. Just think of all the station wagons on the road that folks call SUV's. Cut the crap marketing department, they are station wagons.
Sport Utility Vehicles? Really? I suppose for the millions of moms that won't drive a "wagon" it's one way to sell them one... just convince them it's "sporty".
Ya can put a dress on a pig - it's still a pig.

I'm not a fan of the truck, but it does appear to have a bed. It appears to be more useful than I first expected, but I think I'll stick with the gas vehicles instead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNlhcLYcr2I

[Brendan]

Originally Posted by qickkenny

I agree with Tinker, Ford needs to build a work truck for people who can afford it !

i wish they would make a small truck, like the Ranger used to be

[Bob NH]

Well, according to today's news reports, orders are in for 150,000 of them so far ! Must be someone likes them ? Something like my lady friend said about ESSO years ago,"Every Sucker Stops Once" !

[34fordy]

Originally Posted by Brendan

i wish they would make a small truck, like the Ranger used to be

Our son has a 98 Ranger V6 4x4 with 240,000+ miles-Never had a wrench on it yet, dry as dust underneath, and runs like new! Why in the world would they stop making a people pleaser like that? Was it too good?

[JSeery]

The Ford Ranger is back in production.

Ford has invested $850 million in Michigan Assembly to retool the plant to build the all-new Ford Ranger and future Ford Bronco
2019 Ford Ranger is part of an onslaught of new vehicles coming between 2018 and 2020, when the company aims to replace 75 percent of its U.S. portfolio
WAYNE, Mich., Oct. 22, 2018 – When many of Michigan Assembly Plant’s 3,000 workers gather today at the plant, they will be celebrating a rebirth in more ways than one.

“Ford truck fans demanded a midsize pickup that’s ‘Built Ford Tough,’ and we’re delivering with our all-new Ranger that’s specially designed and engineered for American truck customers,” said Joe Hinrichs, Ford’s president of global operations. “At the same time, we’re revitalizing our Michigan Assembly Plant and securing good-paying jobs for our hourly employees here in the U.S.”

[5851a]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXFHgoon7lg I just want one of those tow straps.

[RalphM]

Watched the video of it, had to laugh!
Reporter says “ it’s so roomy inside because they didn’t have to worry about putting things like paint on it “
ROFLMAO!

[History]

We ordered a Prius just before the gas went insane, 2008 I think. We waited and waited and waited for it to come in so I called corporate Toyota and WOW, got a call from the dealer that our car had came in. The associate we dealt with told us that we wouldn't have received our car if we hadn't called corporate. They were selling for more than sticker price because gas prices had risen so much. The owner of that dealership was in statesville nc, the owner (in 2008) seems to be a very dishonest, greedy person.

Anyway,,,,,,, the car was the ugliest car I've ever owned BUT,,,, I loved driving that car, had lots of room (inside is considered mid size) and a shit ton of power. Torque!!!!!! On take off was awesome. You didn't have to setup for passing other cars, you just floored it and it went. I once drove it to Boone NC and took all the back roads, four passengers and I averaged 54.8 mpg. I did drive it like I was trying to conserve every drop of gas, easing on and off the throttle. Wife averaged around 46mpg . We sold it because my wife hated the way it looked but it's still going strong and battery is still working great.

I think electric is great and those of you who haven't felt it's power, I believe would be impressed with it.

Don't get me wrong, this isn't politics because I'm on the wrong side of electric cars politically but they are interesting to me and as far as being practical may be the way of the future. Easy on the eyes is another story. Oh and no cast iron to have welded.

[51 MERC-CT]

Originally Posted by JSeery

The Ford Ranger is back in production.

Ford has invested $850 million in Michigan Assembly to retool the plant to build the all-new Ford Ranger and future Ford Bronco
2019 Ford Ranger is part of an onslaught of new vehicles coming between 2018 and 2020, when the company aims to replace 75 percent of its U.S. portfolio
WAYNE, Mich., Oct. 22, 2018 – When many of Michigan Assembly Plant’s 3,000 workers gather today at the plant, they will be celebrating a rebirth in more ways than one.

“Ford truck fans demanded a midsize pickup that’s ‘Built Ford Tough,’ and we’re delivering with our all-new Ranger that’s specially designed and engineered for American truck customers,” said Joe Hinrichs, Ford’s president of global operations. “At the same time, we’re revitalizing our Michigan Assembly Plant and securing good-paying jobs for our hourly employees here in the U.S.”

Unfortunately from what I have seen of this 'new' Ranger, it resembles the old two passenger bare boned pickup that many liked in name only.

[moonraker]

Originally Posted by tomcarman

Here's one idea: Supposing one didn't have to totally rely on a recharging station, but rather had a small Briggs and Stratton type engine that would automatically start and recharge your battery enroute as needed.

You'll surprised but that's how some people in Russia drive Teslas - with a small gas-powered gen in the trunk. The problem is that charging stations are very rare, and if you you have to drive in heavy traffic while it's dark, cold and snowing, you'll get whopping 10 miles on a full charge LOL It's a real story of my friend who owns Tesla. A lot of energy is spent warming the battery, heating the cabin and operating lights, wipers and sound system. That's why the electobuses that city of Moscow is starting to use have a small diesel engine to heat the cabin and warm the batteries.

[moonraker]

I totally forgot about real truck that it is used by Russian special police forces (something like SWAT in the US). It's been in production since 2014, originally called The Punisher but later renamed Falcatus.

[Tinker]

Originally Posted by Kube

You, like the rest of the folks will start to call it a truck if that's what tesla calls it. Cut the crap marketing department, they are station wagons.

Hey Mike, if you read what I posted previously, "I can't call it a true truck" and "Not a true truck with a bed".

I'm not trying to create a argument because I agree with you on the surface. But I don't want to be misquoted either.

It was a ill fated conversion I proposed, I guess, that people also have very hard stances on. I didn't think people would have responded as passionately about it really. My bad.

[B-O-B]

Nothing against electric but the design leaves a lot for the imagination. Reminds me of something you would purchase in a metal model for a small child for his star wars toys. Naw I wouldn't be seen in one.

[mfirth]

Come on guys...enough already....Like a friend once said "i played with electric cars when i was a kid".....

[40 Deluxe]

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Originally Posted by Digger

Ridiculous, talk about this POS somewhere else without polluting this site

It may be ugly, but that's only skin deep! It's looking more and more like the cycle is about complete. Early electric cars (around 1900-1910 or so) were far better than the gasoline or steam cars of that era. Gas cars were unreliable, hard to start, smoky and smelly (though not as bad as a horse) while steam cars took too long to build up steam and froze in the winter. Eventually the superior range of gas cars won out.
Same with self driving cars-the circle is almost complete. That is, a horse drawn buggy was self driving once the horse learned the way home. The "driver" could take a nap and wake up at home!

[Brian]

Think it looks like an F 117

[40 Deluxe]

Originally Posted by 5851a

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXFHgoon7lg I just want one of those tow straps.

Stop and think about this "test": level ground, steel wheels on steel track, tapered roller bearings on those steel wheels. Amount of friction to overcome? Very little! Rolling resistance? Again, very little! The only challenge is overcoming the inertia of a million pounds at rest. (Remember junior high school? "An object at rest tends to stay at rest, and an object in motion tends to stay in motion, unless acted on by an outside force.) Just a slow, steady pull will get those train cars moving. Maintaining traction would be the trick here. Any automatic transmission vehicle heavy enough could do this.

[Tinker]

I like my flathead and I don't want it to go away. It's not going to fade. Maybe others will over time. Lot of old hit miss engines around that people have fun with.

Electric motors certainly has some advantages with power. There are no power curves. It's linear. Trains have been using electric engines from GE for a long time. But who knows.




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[40 Deluxe]

Originally Posted by tomcarman

Forward thinking as technology gets better, same as in 32 when Ford introduced the Flat head V8. I have several ideas that have been floating around in my head for a number of years regarding electric powered vehicles. Here's one idea: Supposing one didn't have to totally rely on a recharging station, but rather had a small Briggs and Stratton type engine that would automatically start and recharge your battery enroute as needed. Supposing if this option were avalaible the battery capacity/weght/cost could be reduced to propel the vehicle and the engine could power a generator to accomplish this. This technology already exists. I'm sure many of you have a generator already. Do away with most of the fancy electronics. We already have deep cycle marine batteries that are rechargeable over and over again. In this scenario one could potentially have a vehicle that gets incredible milage.I remember clearly when I was a kid we could fill up the homebuilt minibike for a quarter and ride all day. That was when my Dad wouldn't buy gas if it was over 30 cents/ gallon. I have other ideas if anyone is interested in reading them.

Tomcarman, it sounds to me like your idea of a gas engine to recharge the batteries enroute was done 20 years ago. It's called a Prius! The Chevy Volt is another example, just two of many. Your little Briggs powered generator would have to run day and night and still couldn't keep up! Don't forget; deep cycle marine batteries are out-dated, ancient technology with very limited range and long recharge times. You need lithium-ion batteries.
And don't be too quick to toss out those "fancy electronics"! They're there to handle things such as transitioning between regenerative braking and the wheel brakes, balancing power output from engine or batteries, regulating charge rate, keeping the batteries cool, and much more. 1910 technology is just way too inefficient now!

[Tinker]

Originally Posted by TJ

Those electric vehicles could not be produced without energy from sources like coal, natural gas, petroleum products, etc. If Musk didn't get government subsidies he would be out of business. He's been riding on our dime for too long and we should not be giving incentives(tax money) to buy electric vehicles.

TJ, the consciences realistically to go "green" quickly (no fossil fuels) is nuclear power. Does make sense, but most of the plants we have were built 20 yrs ago. Technology is a gift and a curse!

[Dodge]

Well, somebody likes them, they've taken 200,000 deposits for the truck as of today up
from 136,000 yesterday. Go figure.
Remember there's a butt for every seat.......

[tubman]

I was in the local ComCast office today, trying to get my cable TV up and running. They had their contemporary music channel on. Trust me, tastes for today are very different from ours. The music was stranger than that truck.

[JSeery]

Originally Posted by tubman

I was in the local ComCast office today, trying to get my cable TV up and running. They had their contemporary music channel on. Trust me, tastes for today are very different from ours. The music was stranger than that truck.

LOL, so true!

[OhioRick]

ugly as hell but They must have the torque, balance and pull on that suspension figured out to a science. If anything, this will be used in future vehicles……



https://www.facebook.com/interesting...4160597701045/

[V8COOPMAN]

Originally Posted by OhioRick

ugly as hell but They must have the torque, balance and pull on that suspension figured out to a science. If anything, this will be used in future vehicles……



https://www.facebook.com/interesting...4160597701045/

That AIN'T up-hill...that road is as level as the ocean. It only sorta looks up-hill 'cuz the photog twisted the camera as he panned.....sheesh! DD

[dumb person]

They couldn't find an actual hill so had to tilt the camera a tiny bit? Fake.
Even if it wasn't fake i suspect going uphill would have a slight advantage i the trucks were of equal weight & RWD only.

[RalphM]

I’m still waiting for the big EMP blast that will make all these new cars and puters worthless scrap. And I’ll still be driving around in my old Fords!

[V8COOPMAN]

Originally Posted by RalphM

I’m still waiting for the big EMP blast that will make all these new cars and puters worthless scrap. And I’ll still be driving around in my old Fords!

Nope, you'll be pushin' those old Fords. When the big EMP blast trashes all the 'puters, none of your credit cards are going to make the gas pumps work, even if there was an operational electrical grid left to power the pumps, which NO...there won't be. DD

[RalphM]

Not if I have my own gas pump and generator! But I would miss the Ford Barn terribly

[Lawson Cox]

Yeah, but from the way it is shaped it shouldn't be detectable on radar, or sonar.

[Brian]

Yeah, but from the way it is shaped it shouldn't be detectable on radar, or sonar.



Yes Lawson, great minds think alike; earlier I said it looks like an F117

[1948F-1Pickup]

Prius battery is something like $4500 worth. Expensive to replace.
I have a friend in Ohio that got an older one basically for free as it was
battery replacement time. He did the job, that's how I know how much.
Fuggly little car. Quick, but I can't get past the UGLY.

[34fordy]

Originally Posted by 1948F-1Pickup

Prius battery is something like $4500 worth. Expensive to replace.
I have a friend in Ohio that got an older one basically for free as it was
battery replacement time. He did the job, that's how I know how much.
Fuggly little car. Quick, but I can't get past the UGLY.

2nd Generation Prius, 2004-2009 rebuilt battery, with a lifetime guarantee, delivered and installed at your residence is $1449.00.

[Not George]

Originally Posted by V8COOPMAN

That AIN'T up-hill...that road is as level as the ocean. It only sorta looks up-hill 'cuz the photog twisted the camera as he panned.....sheesh! DD

..........and the ocean is not level.

[tubman]

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..........and the trees in the background look vertical to me.

[1948F-1Pickup]

Originally Posted by 34fordy

2nd Generation Prius, 2004-2009 rebuilt battery, with a lifetime guarantee, delivered and installed at your residence is $1449.00.

Yeah. That wasn't the experience he relayed to me in September 2019. Not even remotely close to that total. $1500 is dirt cheap......

[V8COOPMAN]

Originally Posted by Not George

..........and the ocean is not level.

YOU WIN, George! DD




This picture taken just off the coast of "Yep"!

[Jack E/NJ]

Musk's 2nd generation tesla will attempt to address the criticism of the 1st generation's angular ugliness. Jack E/NJ

[mfirth]

I am thankful for much, but i'm gonna be REAL THANKFUL when this thread is dead !!!!
Lots more OLD FORDS ....PLEASE

[slowforty]

In regard to the prius needing a new battery/ Someone bought one cheap because it supposedly needed batteries, but it turned out to be corroded connections. Cleaned all of them and drove off down the road. Checking the Basics is always good.

[HOTRODPRIMER]

Does this site not have a moderator anymore?, this is the Ford Barn for crying out loud! HRP

[flatford8]

Originally Posted by HOTRODPRIMER

Does this site not have a moderator anymore?, this is the Ford Barn for crying out loud! HRP

I think their gonna let it go to......do I dare say it....YES I DO.....till the battery goes DEAD.....HAHA.....Enjoy the Holidays guys.......Mark