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Old 04-26-2023, 02:42 PM   #1
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Putting new tires on 31 Coupe.
Any hints on removal of old tires from rims????
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Old 04-26-2023, 02:49 PM   #2
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Yes!
I broke the bead with TWO pieces of 2 X 4's! Long one at 6" - 8' and short one at 18" - 24". Lay the tire on floor, put the short 2 X vertically and slide the longer one under the bumper or frame which ever is easier, press down on end of long 2X and there you have it bead is broken!

It is easier with two people but can be done by oneself!
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Old 04-26-2023, 05:48 PM   #3
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I put a bottle jack on the tire and and used the back bumper on my truck to basically jack up the truck and broke the tie bead in the process.
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Old 04-26-2023, 07:10 PM   #4
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Guys I have always just pushed down on the sidewall when the stem valve had been removed to insure all the air was out. On a set of petrified tires I had to stand on them with my heal but that's about it.
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Old 04-27-2023, 11:14 AM   #5
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Fred,
Replaced our who knows how old Allstates last spring. I broke the beads and replaced all four tires while they were mounted on the car. Broke the bead by hand on three and squeezed the sidewalls with a c-clamp on the one stubborn one. Dale
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Old 04-27-2023, 10:23 PM   #6
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Funny, I just did this today. See photo. Remove the valve stem core, place a >4’ long 4x4” or stacked 2-2x4” on the tire near the bead (not in rim). Back your truck up on the wood. Had to do this for some old wheels I inherited.
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Old 04-27-2023, 10:28 PM   #7
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Pics.

I know this is not high tech but the tires coming off are trash and my tires shops won’t touch them.

And note the dense insulation on the ground to protect the rim.
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Old 04-28-2023, 05:37 AM   #8
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I made this bead breaker from 2x4's. (The spare tire with cover is just there for the photo!)

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Old 04-28-2023, 06:28 AM   #9
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I have run over the tires with another car. I aimed the tires on the other car so that they ran over the tire to be unmounted at the rim of the wheel. I used an old rug on the concrete to protect the Model A wheel.
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Old 04-28-2023, 08:31 AM   #10
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if petrified. sawzall..........
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Old 04-30-2023, 07:03 AM   #11
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This is an interesting link.

https://youtu.be/WJh8VppJhro


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Old 04-30-2023, 07:06 AM   #12
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I made this bead breaker from 2x4's. (The spare tire with cover is just there for the photo!)


That looks like a good project to make. Can you post the dimensions?


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Old 04-30-2023, 08:58 AM   #13
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That looks like a good project to make. Can you post the dimensions?
Yes, but it'll be a few days.
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Old 05-01-2023, 09:25 AM   #14
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This ought to show what's needed:

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Old 05-01-2023, 10:15 AM   #15
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I have been mounting and dismounting our tires by hand, using a single, padded tire spoon. The tires on our coupe, until recently, were 15 years old. I used techniques found in the Ford Model A Instruction Book to remove and replace old with new 19x4.75-550 radials.

Using two 24" pieces of wooden 4x4s placed on the floor to protect the wheel, spokes and hub cap, I've been able to stand on the tire (a hand on the work bench for balance) and break the beads free with my boots. Place the 4x4s under the outer edges of the wheel to give full support and clearance to the spokes. Some use a wooden box with a hole in the center for this. Others use a bead breaker tool, homemade or purchased, which applies leveraged pressure directly to the tire bead. The 4x4s cost little and are easily stored.
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Old 05-01-2023, 10:17 AM   #16
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Nice job Bruce. Thanks for the dimensions.
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Old 05-01-2023, 06:59 PM   #17
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Lots of good options presented for breaking the beads.

To take the tire off of the wheels I use two tire spoons and place the tire on a carpet covered wooden box with a hole in the center so the spokes wont interfere with the wheels ability to lay flat when working on it.

Lots of videos available on Youtube showing the basics of how to do it. Having a tube involved increases the challenge a bit so as to not pinch the tube with the spoons.

To protect the wheel from getting scratched up I cut several strips of plastic from milk jugs that I place between the spoons and the wheels.

When mounting them, again use the plastic strips and be generous with the application of a tire mounting lubricant.
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Excellent! Thanks so much. :-)


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Old 05-04-2023, 10:48 AM   #19
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To protect the wheel from getting scratched up I cut several strips of plastic from milk jugs that I place between the spoons and the wheels.

When mounting them, again use the plastic strips and be generous with the application of a tire mounting lubricant.
I use these wheel protectors https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...e?ie=UTF8&th=1

and tire spoons similar to these. I use two of the spoons to break the bead.

https://www.amazon.com/ROTATION-Stee..._rp_0_1_i&th=1
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I use these wheel protectors https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...e?ie=UTF8&th=1

and tire spoons similar to these. I use two of the spoons to break the bead.

https://www.amazon.com/ROTATION-Stee..._rp_0_1_i&th=1
Nice. Didn't know something like that was available. I will try a set of them.
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