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Old 08-16-2020, 12:04 PM   #1
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Hi All,

Just spitballing here...but since ‘search’ button is broken I will ask. If I wanted to make up an A-V8, what would it take? I am thinking stock coupe/Tudor, stock 53’ engine late 30’s tranny. I assume juice brakes? I just want a stock model A with a V8.

So can someone point me in the right research direction please. Thank you.

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Old 08-16-2020, 12:26 PM   #2
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Juice brakes,split wishbone,adapter kit for pedals V8 trans or T5..adapt steering column. And thats just for starters..boxing the frame,installing a k rail are good things to do as well...its a big job done right and not much gained over a hopped up 4 banger unless you spend thousands on the engine. Sexy? You bet...and returns on investment if you're handy
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Old 08-16-2020, 12:28 PM   #3
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Vern Tardel's "how to build a traditional hotrod"....step by step to build an AV8
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Old 08-16-2020, 12:29 PM   #4
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Buy Vern Tardell’s Book. That’s what he’s does is make A V-8’s
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Old 08-16-2020, 12:30 PM   #5
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I'd ask on the V8 forum. A 59-A might be a better fit, length-wise?
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Old 08-16-2020, 12:33 PM   #6
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8BA coverted to 59AB,bolt on bellhousing makes the difference..
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Old 08-16-2020, 12:39 PM   #7
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I'd ask on the V8 forum. A 59-A might be a better fit, length-wise?
Yes, 59-A or an 8BA with 59 stuff on it. The 8BA stuff (fan, crank pulley, etc) is just forward enough to cause some clearance issues when keeping everything stock.

Tardell's Hot Rod Your Model A is the only source/book you need. He does it with a Tudor as well.

Hope to finish my '28 Roadster AV8 on '32 rails in the next month or two.
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Thanks guys. Just looking for a stock set up not a ‘hot rod’. Something that we can tour across country in and maybe tow a tear drop with.

Although a hopper up banger might be nice as well. Down draft carbs O/V set up maybe.....


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Old 08-16-2020, 01:18 PM   #9
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Thanks guys. Just looking for a stock set up not a ‘hot rod’. Something that we can tour across country in and maybe tow a tear drop with.

Although a hopper up banger might be nice as well. Down draft carbs O/V set up maybe.....


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Hi Mike:

Stock or not, a V8 just doesn't drop in place on a stock Model A. You will need to adjust and change the engine location and mounting, the trans and the length of the driveshaft and the arrangement and mounting of the pedals. Depending on your final placement of the motor, it can impact the location of the steering box.

It may sound like a simple drop in, but there are a number of things you need to consider before taking this project on. Get Tardell's book. You'll see rather quickly if this conversation is for you or not. Then all you'll be out is the $50 bucks, but you'll also have a great resource on your hands.
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Not trying to argue but for touring and even towing a small trailer some choice upgrades to the A engine would probably be easier and cheaper and be just as capable.
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Not trying to argue but for touring and even towing a small trailer some choice upgrades to the A engine would probably be easier and cheaper and be just as capable.
IMO, it depends on what you want to tow and at what speed. As I have said here many times many times, my wife and I have towed a camper that weighs about a tonne (2,200 lb) behind our '29 Phaeton with the original engine rebuilt for a bit more power and stamina. I guess I'm getting 60 or so hp out of it. With the Mitchell O/D, we cruise day day at 50 mph.
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. Something that we can tour across country in and maybe tow a tear drop with.
That sounds like a plan...( I'm jealous)


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A 32 doesn't look that much different than a Model A. Why not get a 32 V8 and not have to jump through all the mod hoops?
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Old 08-16-2020, 09:40 PM   #14
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V8 is 221 or 239 cubic inches across 8 cylinders

Model A is 200 cubic inches across 4 cylinders

The biggest difference is counterbalancing and pressurized main bearings,critical for sustained high speed driving.This can be done to an A relatively easy..the rest is fundamental,the A torque rise when total horsepower is doubled through bolt on modifications along with an overdrive you're in V8 country
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Clings makes everything you need to bolt in the V8 trans and wishbones. Front motor mounts are available from Speedway. https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Speed...apters,77.html
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A 32 doesn't look that much different than a Model A. Why not get a 32 V8 and not have to jump through all the mod hoops?
About 3-4X's the price of a Model A.
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Since mod's being done, drop in a 2000cc Pinto with syncro tranny. Can run ac and accessories. Looks more like an A block than a V8 and more reliable.
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