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Kube · 12-31-2017, 12:58 PM

Guys, I am interested in a 36 cabriolet on eBay. As I don't have time to inspect it personally I was wondering if any of you '36 guru's would look over the photos and advise me of things that may be incorrect or otherwise bothersome.

thanks a bunch!

1936 Ford Deluxe item # 272999874536

Brendan · 12-31-2017, 01:10 PM

i am no expert, but it looks like a good car to me

expavr · 12-31-2017, 01:39 PM

Kube
As a frame of reference what I would consider a solid 4, 36 Cabriolet with a Columbia sold at No Reserve at the B-J Auction in Scottsdale in 2016 for $38K. I had thought it would go much higher, but it didn’t seem like there was much interest in the car and the crowd was a little thin as it went across the block late morning. Strange that the EBay photos don’t show the engine compartment, they usually do. Its sure a pretty car.
Les Williams

V8ER · 12-31-2017, 01:54 PM

Major issues: that is not a '36 serial number. That is very bothersome. No under the hood or dash pictures. Too many general exterior pictures and not enough detail pictures.

Minor issues: taillights, interior handles and license bracket should not be chrome. Right front pin stripe does not line up. Spiders should not be painted.

deuce_roadster · 12-31-2017, 02:01 PM

I guess I would verify that the pictures show the car as it is today. The disclaimers would make me a bit cautious. "As is, Where is" you accept any defects etc. While it says it is in Colorado, it has license plates from another state. Could be a flood car.

mrtexas · 12-31-2017, 03:25 PM

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hotcoupe · 12-31-2017, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V8ER

Major issues: that is not a '36 serial number. That is very bothersome. No under the hood or dash pictures. Too many general exterior pictures and not enough detail pictures.

Minor issues: taillights, interior handles and license bracket should not be chrome. Right front pin stripe does not line up. Spiders should not be painted.

Regarding your comment about the spider hubcaps, those caps don't appear to be spider caps. They appear to be '36 hubcaps that have been plated along with the artillery wheel. I see a distinct line of separation between the O.D of (what would be)a standard '36 hubcap and the spokes of the artillery wheel. Jmho
Tom

Kube · 12-31-2017, 04:26 PM

Guys, thanks a bunch. I have already reconsidered and pulled my bid. After looking closer, with your advice, I have become weary of this one. Plus, I'd just noticed the tag on the keys which in turn made me check the seller out. Obviously a guy who flips cars.
Plus, when I pulled my bid, I noted the only other bid was "hidden". That stinks of a shill big time.
Thanks again...

mrtexas · 12-31-2017, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kube

Guys, thanks a bunch. I have already reconsidered and pulled my bid. After looking closer, with your advice, I have become weary of this one. Plus, I'd just noticed the tag on the keys which in turn made me check the seller out. Obviously a guy who flips cars.
Plus, when I pulled my bid, I noted the only other bid was "hidden". That stinks of a shill big time.
Thanks again...

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Capt Kirk · 12-31-2017, 07:42 PM

I'm no expert but it looked like the rumble seat lid was twisted. It wasn't seated on the drivers side while the pass side looked ok. As mentioned, the pinstripe on the passenger side grill wasn't aligned and the hood to grill gap was way off. Through the grill, it looks like a shiny new (maybe aluminum) radiator. Personally, I wouldn't spend that kind of money without actually laying eyes on it or, at least, having someone you trust laying eyes on it.

Capt Kirk · 12-31-2017, 07:53 PM

My previous post was based on just looking at the pictures. I just read the description. "Every Nut, Bolt, and Fastener Has Been Restored to Factory Specifications in Order to Attain the Highest Possible Judging Points." The screwed up rumble lid, the wiper that looks like it's falling off and the hood to grill fitment...etc. Nice looking car but I think the description is misleading.

19Fordy · 12-31-2017, 08:24 PM

GOOD NEWS
Mike and other Fordbarners,

That car sold for $29,000, April 15, 2016 at the Houston Mecum Auction.
Maybe it was a "flood car" as that price seems low.
https://www.mecum.com/lots/HA0416-24...ord-cabriolet/
You definitely made the right decision. Looks like someone is "bidding it up" on a regular basis. It's a Mecum Auction car that seller is 'flipping". No photos of under carriage or engine is problematic for such an allegedly highly restored car. Would be interesting to do a search and find what Mecum auction it was sold at and for how much.
Glad you didn't get burned.

Found it. Same car was offered at Mecum Auction in Houston, April 14-16 in 2016.
https://www.mecum.com/lots/HA0416-24...ord-cabriolet/

petehoovie · 12-31-2017, 09:05 PM

The engine in it looks to be a 21 stud 1937 vintage....

Kube · 01-01-2018, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 19Fordy

GOOD NEWS
Mike and other Fordbarners,

That car sold for $29,000, April 15, 2016 at the Houston Mecum Auction.
Maybe it was a "flood car" as that price seems low.
https://www.mecum.com/lots/HA0416-24...ord-cabriolet/
You definitely made the right decision. Looks like someone is "bidding it up" on a regular basis. It's a Mecum Auction car that seller is 'flipping". No photos of under carriage or engine is problematic for such an allegedly highly restored car. Would be interesting to do a search and find what Mecum auction it was sold at and for how much.
Glad you didn't get burned.

Found it. Same car was offered at Mecum Auction in Houston, April 14-16 in 2016.
https://www.mecum.com/lots/HA0416-24...ord-cabriolet/

Wow! You really have made me feel better about my decision. Thanks a ton.
I am soooo glad I'd asked for advice on this.

Don Rogers · 01-01-2018, 04:14 PM

a couple more things to add to V8ers notes:
Luggage racks were not available on cabriolets,coupes or roadsters
Leather interior appears to be early style..not correct for wood grained dash era
Wipers seem disconnected and not in tandum

DavidG · 01-01-2018, 04:47 PM

And, since I believe such things are important to you, the top is the wrong color in terms of authenticity.

deuce lover · 01-02-2018, 01:39 AM

Read his disclaimer in the description.Its clear that if you buy it you "eat it".The inaccuracy of descriptions of parts and cars abound on EBAY.

Jay in Mass · 01-02-2018, 06:32 AM

Kube
It looks like you did good to steer clear of this one.
He must have been hiding a lot without showing the engine and under the car.

Kube · 01-02-2018, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay in Mass

Kube
It looks like you did good to steer clear of this one.
He must have been hiding a lot without showing the engine and under the car.

I agree. He told me a number of days ago that he would send photos of both. that didn't happen. He told me he bought the car from his partner. I now am guessing his "partner" is Dana Mecum

19Fordy · 01-02-2018, 10:37 AM

Kube: Just curious.
Did the seller give you any indication of what his selling price was?

12-31-2017, 12:58 PM	#1
Kube Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 8,990	opinions welcome re: '36 Cabriolet for sale Guys, I am interested in a 36 cabriolet on eBay. As I don't have time to inspect it personally I was wondering if any of you '36 guru's would look over the photos and advise me of things that may be incorrect or otherwise bothersome. thanks a bunch! 1936 Ford Deluxe item # 272999874536 __________________ "I can explain it for you. However, I can't understand it for you".

12-31-2017, 01:10 PM	#2
Brendan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: At my kitchen table in Santa Rosa, Ca Posts: 2,903	Re: opinions welcome re: '36 Cabriolet for sale i am no expert, but it looks like a good car to me __________________ If it would have been a snake it would have bit ya! i can't spell my way out of a paper bag!

12-31-2017, 01:39 PM	#3
expavr Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Hansville, WA Posts: 776	Re: opinions welcome re: '36 Cabriolet for sale Kube As a frame of reference what I would consider a solid 4, 36 Cabriolet with a Columbia sold at No Reserve at the B-J Auction in Scottsdale in 2016 for $38K. I had thought it would go much higher, but it didn’t seem like there was much interest in the car and the crowd was a little thin as it went across the block late morning. Strange that the EBay photos don’t show the engine compartment, they usually do. Its sure a pretty car. Les Williams

12-31-2017, 01:54 PM	#4
V8ER Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: near Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 402	Re: opinions welcome re: '36 Cabriolet for sale Major issues: that is not a '36 serial number. That is very bothersome. No under the hood or dash pictures. Too many general exterior pictures and not enough detail pictures. Minor issues: taillights, interior handles and license bracket should not be chrome. Right front pin stripe does not line up. Spiders should not be painted.

12-31-2017, 02:01 PM	#5
deuce_roadster Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Shelton, WA Posts: 3,799	Re: opinions welcome re: '36 Cabriolet for sale I guess I would verify that the pictures show the car as it is today. The disclaimers would make me a bit cautious. "As is, Where is" you accept any defects etc. While it says it is in Colorado, it has license plates from another state. Could be a flood car.

12-31-2017, 03:25 PM	#6
mrtexas Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Sugar Land, TX Posts: 4,395	Re: opinions welcome re: '36 Cabriolet for sale Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) https://www.ebay.com/itm/1936-Ford-D...BaRGpU&vxp=mtr __________________ 41 woodie https://41fordwoodie.weebly.com/

12-31-2017, 04:26 PM	#8
Kube Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 8,990	Re: opinions welcome re: '36 Cabriolet for sale Guys, thanks a bunch. I have already reconsidered and pulled my bid. After looking closer, with your advice, I have become weary of this one. Plus, I'd just noticed the tag on the keys which in turn made me check the seller out. Obviously a guy who flips cars. Plus, when I pulled my bid, I noted the only other bid was "hidden". That stinks of a shill big time. Thanks again... __________________ "I can explain it for you. However, I can't understand it for you".

12-31-2017, 07:42 PM	#10
Capt Kirk Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Clarkston MI Posts: 830	Re: opinions welcome re: '36 Cabriolet for sale I'm no expert but it looked like the rumble seat lid was twisted. It wasn't seated on the drivers side while the pass side looked ok. As mentioned, the pinstripe on the passenger side grill wasn't aligned and the hood to grill gap was way off. Through the grill, it looks like a shiny new (maybe aluminum) radiator. Personally, I wouldn't spend that kind of money without actually laying eyes on it or, at least, having someone you trust laying eyes on it. __________________ 35 Ford Cabriolet 56 Chevy Pickup 63 VW Bug Empty wallet

12-31-2017, 07:53 PM	#11
Capt Kirk Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Clarkston MI Posts: 830	Re: opinions welcome re: '36 Cabriolet for sale My previous post was based on just looking at the pictures. I just read the description. "Every Nut, Bolt, and Fastener Has Been Restored to Factory Specifications in Order to Attain the Highest Possible Judging Points." The screwed up rumble lid, the wiper that looks like it's falling off and the hood to grill fitment...etc. Nice looking car but I think the description is misleading. __________________ 35 Ford Cabriolet 56 Chevy Pickup 63 VW Bug Empty wallet

12-31-2017, 08:24 PM	#12
19Fordy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Coral Springs FL Posts: 10,925	Re: opinions welcome re: '36 Cabriolet for sale GOOD NEWS Mike and other Fordbarners, That car sold for $29,000, April 15, 2016 at the Houston Mecum Auction. Maybe it was a "flood car" as that price seems low. https://www.mecum.com/lots/HA0416-24...ord-cabriolet/ You definitely made the right decision. Looks like someone is "bidding it up" on a regular basis. It's a Mecum Auction car that seller is 'flipping". No photos of under carriage or engine is problematic for such an allegedly highly restored car. Would be interesting to do a search and find what Mecum auction it was sold at and for how much. Glad you didn't get burned. Found it. Same car was offered at Mecum Auction in Houston, April 14-16 in 2016. https://www.mecum.com/lots/HA0416-24...ord-cabriolet/ Last edited by 19Fordy; 01-01-2018 at 10:58 AM.

12-31-2017, 09:05 PM	#13
petehoovie Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 8,078	Re: opinions welcome re: '36 Cabriolet for sale The engine in it looks to be a 21 stud 1937 vintage.... __________________ The only thing nice about being imperfect is the joy it brings to others.... *"Silver rings, your butt! Them's washers!"* "We shot our way out of that town for a dollar's worth of steel holes!" - from 'The Wild Bunch' - 1969 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NReUd2_0u0

01-01-2018, 04:14 PM	#15
Don Rogers Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wildwood, MO. (near St. Louis) Posts: 1,792	Re: opinions welcome re: '36 Cabriolet for sale a couple more things to add to V8ers notes: Luggage racks were not available on cabriolets,coupes or roadsters Leather interior appears to be early style..not correct for wood grained dash era Wipers seem disconnected and not in tandum

01-01-2018, 04:47 PM	#16
DavidG Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: southeastern Michigan Posts: 10,094	Re: opinions welcome re: '36 Cabriolet for sale And, since I believe such things are important to you, the top is the wrong color in terms of authenticity.

01-02-2018, 01:39 AM	#17
deuce lover Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern France Posts: 5,301	Re: opinions welcome re: '36 Cabriolet for sale Read his disclaimer in the description.Its clear that if you buy it you "eat it".The inaccuracy of descriptions of parts and cars abound on EBAY.

01-02-2018, 06:32 AM	#18
Jay in Mass Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mass. Posts: 379	Re: opinions welcome re: '36 Cabriolet for sale Kube It looks like you did good to steer clear of this one. He must have been hiding a lot without showing the engine and under the car.

01-02-2018, 10:37 AM	#20
19Fordy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Coral Springs FL Posts: 10,925	Re: opinions welcome re: '36 Cabriolet for sale Kube: Just curious. Did the seller give you any indication of what his selling price was?