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[ledzep30513]

I am looking for:

BAD-17503-A Windshield Washer Kit Drawings

I am hoping that this set would help in installing this accessory after the having picked up all the parts necessary.

My car is a '58 Fairlane. The part number came out of the 1958 Body, Trim and Sealant Manual.

I do not have to have originals, .pdf would be great. Just something to go by would be most helpful. If anyone knows where I could look that might help too.

I have already tried Ebay, Faxon Auto Lit. Ford themselves, unless there is some type of archive I don't know about. I also have asked Dennis Carpenter, NOS Ltd, Obsolete Reliable (Ford) Parts Co. Concours Parts, Kanter Auto, and probably someone else that I can't remember.

Many thanks in advance to any Barners who can help, Jim

[KULTULZ]

You can find the INSTALL ILL in the 1949/59 FORD MPC ILL SECTION.

[ledzep30513]

I do have that book and can see the routing of the tubing and the reservoir location under the hood. The placement of the pump under the dash is not clear and I'm not sure if there are any indents or something to indicate where the nozzles are to placed and how to get the tubing to them.

[Abe Lugo]

If you don't have the pump installed, it's a really difficult job. You may absolutely need to remove the driver side inner fender panel to get to the area the foot pump bolts into.
It's a foot pump that sis below and to the right of the hand brake. On to the hi towards of the firewall.
I have a 57 that came with it. On another I parted I only gained access because I had the whole front clip off.
Perhaps consider and 60's mechanical pump and a push button install.

[ledzep30513]

Originally Posted by Abe Lugo

If you don't have the pump installed, it's a really difficult job. You may absolutely need to remove the driver side inner fender panel to get to the area the foot pump bolts into.
It's a foot pump that sis below and to the right of the hand brake. On to the hi towards of the firewall.
I have a 57 that came with it. On another I parted I only gained access because I had the whole front clip off.
Perhaps consider and 60's mechanical pump and a push button install.

Could I beg you for a few photos of your installed pump? would you happen to have a spare pump? or any of the other parts necessary to install this option correctly? I want to be as correct as possible for the '58, it already has electric wipers , but I thought the the foot pump would be a great period correct novelty.

[KULTULZ]

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Could I beg you for a few photos of your installed pump?

There is no info in your 1958 WORKSHOP MANUAL discussing operation and repair?

It may be under WIPERS or ACCESSORIES SECTION(s).

I want to be as correct as possible for the '58, it already has electric wipers , but I thought the the foot pump would be a great period correct novelty.

I fully understand and respect that. THANK YOU for keeping the car correct. Where did you source the electric wiper changeover?

I have a 1957 WSM TEXT. Let me see if I can get up off my a$$ and wander down to my cobweb corner section.

[ledzep30513]

The wipers were converted before the car was purchased. So no idea...

[Abe Lugo]

I just saw this. I'll get some pics on one of my 57's.
My wagon still has the pump but was converted to electric so the pull line doesn't have anything to connect to.
On my hard top. I been redoing connections. But the old quote pump is still there.

I just recall that to use the foot pump. You have to have a few vacuum source.
This vacuum line would go to the wiper motor and of the wiper miter there was a spot for the pump. Traditionally it was off the dual vacuum topper of the fuel pump.

Also as far as the spraying you need to find the accessory spray heads or find real ford parts but they are all Trico parts.

[Abe Lugo]

Checked the manual. There is only a section on the wiper cables system and adjustment. No pump or how to in the washer.

[Abe Lugo]

Here is an instruction See clear set up.
Basically you substitute the button for the foot control and the bottle with the pouch.
Also the jets are little tubes for the 57/59 fords.

My F100 truck has the setup but I don't think it's hooked up anymore.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...struction.html

[ledzep30513]

Originally Posted by Abe Lugo

I just saw this. I'll get some pics on one of my 57's.
My wagon still has the pump but was converted to electric so the pull line doesn't have anything to connect to.
On my hard top. I been redoing connections. But the old quote pump is still there.

I just recall that to use the foot pump. You have to have a few vacuum source.
This vacuum line would go to the wiper motor and of the wiper miter there was a spot for the pump. Traditionally it was off the dual vacuum topper of the fuel pump.

Also as far as the spraying you need to find the accessory spray heads or find real ford parts but they are all Trico parts.

Thank for the link to the F-100 set-up instructions, they are very interesting and will be helpful. The pump has only one connection for a vacuum line and a cable line to the old vacuum controlled wiper motor. I think the pump actually uses the pressure you create to push out the fluid to the windshield. So I am hoping to set up this car with the foot pump for the washer system and leave my electric wipers (convert by someone else) in place. Now just to find all the parts to do so.

[ledzep30513]

The original Ford Kit for this job had an instruction sheet included identified only as;
Number 410.
I found this info on page 639 of the Ford M.P.C. Text edition 1964 edition.

[KULTULZ]

Originally Posted by ledzep30513

The original Ford Kit for this job had an instruction sheet included identified only as;

Number 410.

I found this info on page 639 of the Ford M.P.C. Text edition 1964 edition.

If you look more closely, that INSTR SHEET (410) is for a 58/ BIRD 352CI INSTALL.

The 1958 FORD car kit (B8AZ 17A603-A) is not listed in the MPC FINAL ISSUE. I gave you a source of the kit in the 1960 edition but there was no kit parts breakdown.

To positively ID the sheet, you are going to need the correct period CHASSIS CATALOG.

[ledzep30513]

You are correct. I stand corrected. I did see a later edition of the 58 parts catalog as being dated in Aug 1959. It is a PA-759-59 it covers the Canadian models as well as the American.

[ledzep30513]

This book.

[KULTULZ]

Originally Posted by ledzep30513

This book.

I believe that is CANADIAN FORD.

This (attached) is what you need (IMO). Notice the FORM NO (7513) and QUARTER of YEAR PRINT (SEP 1956). This will be the introductory PARTS catalog of the 1957 MODEL YEAR. It should have what you are looking for. If not, you would look for a DEC 1956 printing. They were released by quarter of the year, allowing new parts introduced and deletions later going to loose leaf cataloging. FINAL ISSUE would be bound.

CLICK HERE - https://www.faxonautoliterature.com/

See if the ILL shows large enough -

[ledzep30513]

I a, I a ...am looking for a 1958 later edition, not 1957.

Jim

[KULTULZ]

Originally Posted by ledzep30513

I a, I a ...am looking for a 1958 later edition, not 1957.

Jim

... ... D'oh!...

You understand I have my good days and more than likely bad days ...

You would then look for SEP or DEC 1957 ISSUE if it was available. I do not know how long FORD carried the CHASSIS/BODY MANUALS before going to loose leaf or MPC.

DEALERS used an ORDER FORM to order cataloging from FORD and one would need a copy of that form to see what was available for what period.

Sorry about that... Now where are those blue pills ...

FAXON LITERATURE carries a lot of this stuff. I would call them to inquire.

[Abe Lugo]

Here some pics.
1957 ford country sedan.
The wiper motor has been changed to electric.

You can see where the foot pump mounts to the left of the parking brake.
On the other side of the firewall you can see the spigot for the vacuum hose.

Also in the pics you can also see wheee the sprayers are mounted and the tee for the lines.