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foto1man · 02-07-2015, 07:27 PM

This question is concerning the glass identification, etched window logo’s or window bugs, whatever they may be called. I have 1935 Ford Phaeton and I was wondering if all the windows had logos or bugs? There’s the windshield, the two wind wings and the window in the convertible top in the rear? Were the windows clear or tinted? Were they laminated or tempered and their thickness? Where were the etched logos’s located at, especially the wind wings?
Thanks, Kenneth

ford38v8 · 02-07-2015, 08:01 PM

Kenneth, all windows had the bug except rear windows on the open cars and I believe, wind wings. Bugs were located in the lower corners, and were flipped left or right, which would show backward on one side. No windows were tinted to my knowledge. Windows were laminated, showing a black edge. Not sure if wind wings were laminated. Dates of the bugs could be different, but none would be later than the build date of the car, which can be approximated by the serial numbewindwings and rear open car windowsr. We all like pictures, by the way!

EDIT: Don Rogers posted drawings for bugs on wind wings and open car rear window. Don's the MAN!

Drbrown · 02-07-2015, 10:01 PM

I can't speak to your '35 but the 42-48 Ford V8 book explains how to decipher the bug code as to who made the glass and when. Your glass may be similar.

In the 42-48 range of years Ford made their own flat laminated glass, including the side vents, and the curved rear window glass was made by others, in my case by Herculite. Although my windshield laminate has some "bubbles" in the laminate indicating age, they may not be the original high strength laminated because their bugs give no date and say made by LOF (Libby-Owens-Ford).

Don Rogers · 02-07-2015, 10:46 PM

Kenneth, I have answered your posting on the Early Ford V-8 Clubs Forum. There are (3) dimension drawings (1) for each piece of glass showing the bug location on all pieces of glass.

Regards,
Don Rogers

woodiewagon46 · 02-08-2015, 10:34 AM

Check out the Roy Nacewicz website, for Carleton Glass, www.fordscript.com. It gives info on the "bugs"

VeryTangled · 02-08-2015, 11:51 AM

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Hi Everyone, Don Rogers, THANK YOU for providing that information.

I've got a '36 Phaeton, which came to me without 'bugs.' When researching their placement I observed the ones on the wind wings to be in different places on different cars, and in different orientations, and was quite confused.

I see they are perpendicular to the long side of the wind wing, not parallel to the short side.

http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=95257

02-07-2015, 07:27 PM	#1
foto1man Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Beckley, WV Posts: 5	Etched Glass Identification Logos or Bugs This question is concerning the glass identification, etched window logo’s or window bugs, whatever they may be called. I have 1935 Ford Phaeton and I was wondering if all the windows had logos or bugs? There’s the windshield, the two wind wings and the window in the convertible top in the rear? Were the windows clear or tinted? Were they laminated or tempered and their thickness? Where were the etched logos’s located at, especially the wind wings? Thanks, Kenneth

02-07-2015, 08:01 PM	#2
ford38v8 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 6,645	Re: Etched Glass Identification Logos or Bugs Kenneth, all windows had the bug except rear windows on the open cars and I believe, wind wings. Bugs were located in the lower corners, and were flipped left or right, which would show backward on one side. No windows were tinted to my knowledge. Windows were laminated, showing a black edge. Not sure if wind wings were laminated. Dates of the bugs could be different, but none would be later than the build date of the car, which can be approximated by the serial numbewindwings and rear open car windowsr. We all like pictures, by the way! EDIT: Don Rogers posted drawings for bugs on wind wings and open car rear window. Don's the MAN! __________________ Alan Last edited by ford38v8; 02-07-2015 at 11:41 PM. Reason: Don Rogers has the drawings!

02-07-2015, 10:01 PM	#3
Drbrown Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Glens Falls NY Posts: 1,267	Re: Etched Glass Identification Logos or Bugs I can't speak to your '35 but the 42-48 Ford V8 book explains how to decipher the bug code as to who made the glass and when. Your glass may be similar. In the 42-48 range of years Ford made their own flat laminated glass, including the side vents, and the curved rear window glass was made by others, in my case by Herculite. Although my windshield laminate has some "bubbles" in the laminate indicating age, they may not be the original high strength laminated because their bugs give no date and say made by LOF (Libby-Owens-Ford).

02-07-2015, 10:46 PM	#4
Don Rogers Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wildwood, MO. (near St. Louis) Posts: 1,792	Re: Etched Glass Identification Logos or Bugs Kenneth, I have answered your posting on the Early Ford V-8 Clubs Forum. There are (3) dimension drawings (1) for each piece of glass showing the bug location on all pieces of glass. Regards, Don Rogers

02-08-2015, 10:34 AM	#5
woodiewagon46 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Long Island,NY Posts: 1,555	Re: Etched Glass Identification Logos or Bugs Check out the Roy Nacewicz website, for Carleton Glass, www.fordscript.com. It gives info on the "bugs"

02-08-2015, 11:51 AM	#6
VeryTangled Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: (Not far enough...) Outside of DC Posts: 3,387	Re: Etched Glass Identification Logos or Bugs Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Hi Everyone, Don Rogers, THANK YOU for providing that information. I've got a '36 Phaeton, which came to me without 'bugs.' When researching their placement I observed the ones on the wind wings to be in different places on different cars, and in different orientations, and was quite confused. I see they are perpendicular to the long side of the wind wing, not parallel to the short side. http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=95257 __________________ -Jeff H Have you thought about supporting the Early Ford V-8 Foundation Museum?