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oldguy41 · 07-14-2015, 04:25 PM

My Question, I am looking at the header system from Reds Headers and propose to use the tube header that is made for the stock intake for the model A. Can I still use my engine pan on that side. I will use a stock intake bored to B carb and currenty run a C head and water pump on a engine from a old miller welder. Thanks in Advance for the help.

john in illinois · 07-14-2015, 04:49 PM

As far as I know Jim at Reds can not find a welder and is not making headers. You could call and check.

John

hardtimes · 07-14-2015, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by john in illinois

As far as I know Jim at Reds can not find a welder and is not making headers. You could call and check.

John

Hey john,
Interesting comment regarding Reds and (not) having a 'welder'.
I just purchased a 'Reds' tube header , at the Pomona Swap Meet' , a couple weeks ago.
The young man that I bought the header from, had apparently tried to run this header and gave up. I bought the fairly unused header cheap, as the guy knew that he had problems, but didn't know and/or want to say what the problem was.
I looked the header over, and noticed that 'someone/welder had welded all four pipes ....a quarter inch out of the backside...where mated to block

!

I took the header home and used grinder and belt sander to flatten and fit to block. Nice piece of equipment ...now. Oh , and I ground and took off the little Reds Header plate that was attached, since I now was the 'maker', eh

steve hackel · 07-15-2015, 12:39 AM

FYI; as of this past Friday, when I called asking about a header for myself, the guy that answered the phone said they had none, were currently not building any, and that I should check back again this Fall. I know that by then I will have acquired all the items needed to fabricate my own header, and I know it will be better too.

CarlG · 07-15-2015, 02:09 AM

Tod is almost ready with his cast header.

BILL WILLIAMSON · 07-15-2015, 10:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hardtimes

Hey john,
Interesting comment regarding Reds and (not) having a 'welder'.
I just purchased a 'Reds' tube header , at the Pomona Swap Meet' , a couple weeks ago.
The young man that I bought the header from, had apparently tried to run this header and gave up. I bought the fairly unused header cheap, as the guy knew that he had problems, but didn't know and/or want to say what the problem was.
I looked the header over, and noticed that 'someone/welder had welded all four pipes ....a quarter inch out of the backside...where mated to block

!

I took the header home and used grinder and belt sander to flatten and fit to block. Nice piece of equipment ...now. Oh , and I ground and took off the little Reds Header plate that was attached, since I now was the 'maker', eh

"MAYBE" on his mock up block, the welder let the pipes extend into the counterbores for the alignment RINGS???
Bill W.

48thames · 07-15-2015, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by hardtimes

Hey john,
Interesting comment regarding Reds and (not) having a 'welder'.
I just purchased a 'Reds' tube header , at the Pomona Swap Meet' , a couple weeks ago.
The young man that I bought the header from, had apparently tried to run this header and gave up. I bought the fairly unused header cheap, as the guy knew that he had problems, but didn't know and/or want to say what the problem was.
I looked the header over, and noticed that 'someone/welder had welded all four pipes ....a quarter inch out of the backside...where mated to block

!

I took the header home and used grinder and belt sander to flatten and fit to block. Nice piece of equipment ...now. Oh , and I ground and took off the little Reds Header plate that was attached, since I now was the 'maker', eh

If it's like the one I have, it is also welded on the back side. I didn't grind mine down to far because it's not welded on the front side. I spaced the intake ports with some thick gaskets to level it with the exhaust ports.

waxhead · 07-16-2015, 04:04 AM

You could always try BCCHOPIT over on the HAMB. He makes some nice Model A headers. Here's his website

http://waccustoms.com

1931 flamingo · 07-16-2015, 10:02 AM

X2
Paul in CT

2935ford · 07-16-2015, 10:43 AM

Not sure what is going on with Red's but by the sound of things.....it isn't good!

I tried to buy a set of his flathead V8 headers a few months ago and he told me he had no employees? Didn't know when he would?

rooster31 · 07-16-2015, 10:58 AM

he builds nice headers and intakes

prpmmp · 07-16-2015, 12:04 PM

Ordered a set for 8BA with f1 box in February 2013 and paid with credit card online. Sent me a email the next day saying 2 of his men got into a fight and had to fire them, was looking for a new wielder, when He got back on track he would call me,I guess he never got back on track! (also did not charge on my credit card) Pete

bdave_mcc · 07-17-2015, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 2935ford

Not sure what is going on with Red's but by the sound of things.....it isn't good!

I tried to buy a set of his flathead V8 headers a few months ago and he told me he had no employees? Didn't know when he would?

Wont go into detail but had a similar experience last week...two separate orders...no parts in stock.

miwi · 07-20-2015, 06:02 AM

I had ordered headers in March for a V8 Flathead. Jim send me this answer:
"We are out of stock on these headers. Due to problems with employees, we are not sure when we will be in a position to make more. The soonest we could make more headers will be at least 8 weeks."

End of may I asked again if there are any news regarding my order. His answer was: "We are still not able to make headers. We are working on a solution that may allow us to begin production again in the next month or so."

I had dealt with Jim a few times and I didn't had any problems with delivery time or anything. It seems that he has serious problems to find a solution. He didn't charge anything on my credit card until today

I'm still waiting for my order. I hope that he found a solution otherwise I'll cancel my order.

40 Deluxe · 07-21-2015, 01:50 AM

Why is it so hard to find a competent welder?

bdave_mcc · 07-21-2015, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 40 Deluxe

Why is it so hard to find a competent welder?

May be more a matter of pay...good fabricator/welders ain't cheap. JMO

California Travieso · 07-21-2015, 09:59 AM

He's located in Thousand Palms which is north of the resort cities of Palm Springs, Palm Desert, La Qinta, and Indian Wells. Mostly wealthy retired people in the area. Not too many welders live there except maybe a few in Indio. It's about a sixty or seventy mile drive from the Riverside - San Bernardino area where I live. Not too many wwelders could afford to drive out there with $4 a gallon gas prices. Maybe he could farm out the work to a shop in our area.

Tinker · 07-21-2015, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waxhead

You could always try BCCHOPIT over on the HAMB. He makes some nice Model A headers. Here's his website

http://waccustoms.com

Skilled welder also.

CT AV8 · 07-21-2015, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Tinker

Skilled welder also.

And a nice guy with lots of experience and knowledge on Model A's.
He is also here on Ford Barn as BCCHOPIT.

miwi · 09-06-2015, 02:55 AM

It seems that Jim had found a welder. Igot an email that my header is finished an has been shipped.

blgitn · 09-06-2015, 07:03 AM

Please let us know what you think of it when it arrives!

chopnchaneled · 09-06-2015, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by blgitn

Please let us know what you think of it when it arrives!

X's 2
Thanks

miwi · 09-19-2015, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by blgitn

Please let us know what you think of it when it arrives!

Today I got all 3 packages with t (Header, Smithys,extension and tailpipes) The Headers are look goo. The right one fits like a glove, while the left one causes some problems. Due to the fact ´that I have bolts instead of screws that nut don't fit. I have to remove the bolt and then it worked.

BILL WILLIAMSON · 09-20-2015, 12:06 PM

Red is NOT the only company in the world that makes HEADERS!
Bill W.

Tom Wesenberg · 09-21-2015, 01:34 PM

Allen head bolts work well where a socket won't fit.

white64 · 10-19-2015, 12:40 PM

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Been trying to contact Red's for the past several days... I had called them about three weeks ago and was told they had plain steel exhaust for a '40 from header to tail pipe... but now no one answers the phone and I get a "message gh35" whatever the hell that means!

07-14-2015, 04:25 PM	#1
oldguy41 Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Holly, Michigan Posts: 30	Reds Headers My Question, I am looking at the header system from Reds Headers and propose to use the tube header that is made for the stock intake for the model A. Can I still use my engine pan on that side. I will use a stock intake bored to B carb and currenty run a C head and water pump on a engine from a old miller welder. Thanks in Advance for the help.

07-14-2015, 04:49 PM	#2
john in illinois Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Illinois Posts: 2,184	Re: Reds Headers As far as I know Jim at Reds can not find a welder and is not making headers. You could call and check. John

07-15-2015, 12:39 AM	#4
steve hackel Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: midlothian illinois Posts: 447	Re: Reds Headers FYI; as of this past Friday, when I called asking about a header for myself, the guy that answered the phone said they had none, were currently not building any, and that I should check back again this Fall. I know that by then I will have acquired all the items needed to fabricate my own header, and I know it will be better too.

07-15-2015, 02:09 AM	#5
CarlG Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, Alaska Posts: 9,115	Re: Reds Headers Tod is almost ready with his cast header. __________________ Alaskan A's Antique Auto Mushers of Alaska Model A Ford Club of America Model A Restorers Club Antique Automobile Club of America Mullins Owner's Club

07-16-2015, 04:04 AM	#8
waxhead Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: West Australia Posts: 346	Re: Reds Headers You could always try BCCHOPIT over on the HAMB. He makes some nice Model A headers. Here's his website http://waccustoms.com

07-16-2015, 10:02 AM	#9
1931 flamingo Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: new britain,ct 06052 Posts: 9,390	Re: Reds Headers X2 Paul in CT

07-16-2015, 10:43 AM	#10
2935ford Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 1,013	Re: Reds Headers Not sure what is going on with Red's but by the sound of things.....it isn't good! I tried to buy a set of his flathead V8 headers a few months ago and he told me he had no employees? Didn't know when he would?

07-16-2015, 10:58 AM	#11
rooster31 Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: DOUGLASVILLE, GA Posts: 57	Re: Reds Headers he builds nice headers and intakes

07-16-2015, 12:04 PM	#12
prpmmp Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: west grove Pa. Posts: 238	Re: Reds Headers Ordered a set for 8BA with f1 box in February 2013 and paid with credit card online. Sent me a email the next day saying 2 of his men got into a fight and had to fire them, was looking for a new wielder, when He got back on track he would call me,I guess he never got back on track! (also did not charge on my credit card) Pete

07-20-2015, 06:02 AM	#14
miwi Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 76	Re: Reds Headers I had ordered headers in March for a V8 Flathead. Jim send me this answer: "We are out of stock on these headers. Due to problems with employees, we are not sure when we will be in a position to make more. The soonest we could make more headers will be at least 8 weeks." End of may I asked again if there are any news regarding my order. His answer was: "We are still not able to make headers. We are working on a solution that may allow us to begin production again in the next month or so." I had dealt with Jim a few times and I didn't had any problems with delivery time or anything. It seems that he has serious problems to find a solution. He didn't charge anything on my credit card until today I'm still waiting for my order. I hope that he found a solution otherwise I'll cancel my order.

07-21-2015, 01:50 AM	#15
40 Deluxe Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: now Kuna, Idaho Posts: 3,779	Re: Reds Headers Why is it so hard to find a competent welder?

07-21-2015, 09:59 AM	#17
California Travieso Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Moreno Valley, CA Posts: 946	Re: Reds Headers He's located in Thousand Palms which is north of the resort cities of Palm Springs, Palm Desert, La Qinta, and Indian Wells. Mostly wealthy retired people in the area. Not too many welders live there except maybe a few in Indio. It's about a sixty or seventy mile drive from the Riverside - San Bernardino area where I live. Not too many wwelders could afford to drive out there with $4 a gallon gas prices. Maybe he could farm out the work to a shop in our area.

09-06-2015, 02:55 AM	#20
miwi Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 76	Re: Reds Headers It seems that Jim had found a welder. Igot an email that my header is finished an has been shipped.

09-06-2015, 07:03 AM	#21
blgitn Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: West Point, VA 23181 Posts: 373	Re: Reds Headers Please let us know what you think of it when it arrives!

09-20-2015, 12:06 PM	#24
BILL WILLIAMSON Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: FRESNO, CA Posts: 12,560	Re: Reds Headers Red is NOT the only company in the world that makes HEADERS! Bill W. __________________ "THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF"

09-21-2015, 01:34 PM	#25
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Reds Headers Allen head bolts work well where a socket won't fit.

10-19-2015, 12:40 PM	#26
white64 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Pittston , MAine Posts: 222	Re: Reds Headers Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Been trying to contact Red's for the past several days... I had called them about three weeks ago and was told they had plain steel exhaust for a '40 from header to tail pipe... but now no one answers the phone and I get a "message gh35" whatever the hell that means!