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08-23-2018, 06:26 AM | #1 |
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Newbie E-brake question
Ho folks, just bought a 1928 Model A 4 dr Phaeton. Here are some pics of my new addition. Also have a 1956 Nash Metro. Learning the ropes as I go. Fixing the small things that needed fixing. I've had many old cars and trucks over the years (I'm 66). My first A. Gotta get her inspected and the E-brake has to be functioning to pass here in NYS. All the levers work but when you pull back on the brake to set it, it won't catch. I presume there are teeth that ratchet like most E-brakes. The previous owner said that the "pall" under the floorboards might need cleaning? I haven't investigated it yet. Any suggestions? Thanks and nice to be here,
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08-23-2018, 07:14 AM | #2 |
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Replacement pawl sold thru the parts suppliers
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08-23-2018, 07:25 AM | #3 |
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Welcome, SWEET Car...
Here are a couple of things to help you get started. First you will want to get Les Andrews, Vol 1 Mechanics Handbook. Here is one vendors link. http://www.mikes-afordable.com/product/A91024A.html Here is an pdf copy of the cars Instruction Manual that will help you "bond" with your new friend, http://motormayhem.net/wp-uploads/20...ion-Manual.pdf Also you are in the right place. Don't forget that "You Tube" has lots of helpful videos on the Ford Model A. Here is a good start for you as a new A owner to watch. Jack is a contributor to this site. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xkAZil2b78&t=5s Yes there is a "pawl" and it may well be worn out, or just dirty. There is also a spring and a pawl rod under the button on top of the e-brake handle. The button is held in place by a small pin. Could need cleaning also. All of this is on page 1-112-1-114 of that red manual. PAWL: http://www.mikes-afordable.com/mm5/m...vc?Screen=SRCH Lot's of vendors have diagrams in their catalogs as well as ford vintage: https://www.vintagefordforum.net/forum Ask, ask ask, and enjoy the adventure, Chap |
08-23-2018, 07:35 AM | #4 |
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Thanks folks (and Chap). Yes, have the Les Andrews, Vol 1 Mechanics Handbook on the way. Should be here today. Thanks for the links too! Love working on these old machines. Simple. Oh, and watched every Model A vid on YT and I mean everyone. Funny how some are off a bit with "how to set spark advance" One guy had it all the way down when starting......surprised he didn't kill the starter.
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08-23-2018, 09:38 AM | #5 |
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Sounds like your on the right track. Always compare the YT video to the Book. We all grew up under a different "shade tree" and made things up as we went along...lol Chap
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08-23-2018, 12:31 PM | #7 |
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My problem with my e-brake is that I have to pull the handle all the way to the last notch and it still doesn't completely stop the car. I couldn't find anything in the Andrews book about an adjustment. Did I miss something or do I just need new brake shoes (bands)?
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BTW, you live in a nice state for Model A drives, with all those smooth country roads, and not too much traffic. You're lucky. |
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08-23-2018, 02:01 PM | #10 |
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See page 265 of the Service Bulletins. There are two holes in the lever on the brake cross shaft, try the upper hole.
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08-23-2018, 10:43 PM | #11 |
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08-23-2018, 03:43 PM | #12 |
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The car has NO E-Brake Sys.per say.. It only uses the rear brakes as such.. Does not have a push button lever..
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08-23-2018, 04:45 PM | #13 |
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Sometimes you can "sharpen up" the pawl and the teeth with a good flat file. Sometimes not!
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08-23-2018, 06:37 PM | #14 |
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Before you order anything: Remove the floorboards and eyeball the e-brake as you move it back & forth. Have a lead light/flashlight to help you see the parts. You should be able to see exactly what the problem is and what needs to be done.
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08-24-2018, 07:02 AM | #15 |
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Very nice looking car. Also you live in a great area for driving Model A’s.
The e-brake system is not hard to understand or work on. I would pull the floor boards and start checking your system from beginning to end. If operator is shot, new ones are readily available and easy to install. New car to you, check the whole breaking system. Just to be sure. We lived in Homer for 25 years, and found our Sport Coupe put away in a barn in Virgil. Enjoy. |
08-24-2018, 07:02 AM | #16 |
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Linkage sounds like it needs to be taken up, or shortened.
This is a parking brake only. Car should be completly stopped BEFORE parking brake is applied, never to a rolling car! |
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