The Ford Barn

flatford8 · 01-12-2018, 04:57 AM

If your talking about going into 1st or reverse while sitting still....then yes....it’s a good idea to go into 2nd before selecting 1st or reverse.....I can’t give you the technical description but I believe the syncro in 2nd helps your shift to 1st or reverse....this is what I do and I get no grinding...I spent 35 yrs. in a trailer truck and shifting gears was my life...hope this helps....Mark

Hoop · 01-12-2018, 07:46 AM

Why are we trying to teach "albjerryg" how to double clutch?

He lives in Louisiana. There are very few steep hills there that would require down shifting into low.

While there may be some adjusting needed or some dragging, odds are he's not shifting correctly. I can make an otherwise satisfactory transmission grind every time ... even sitting still.

How much is the car being driven?

Lots we don't know about how he's trying to drive it. I would recommend a review of his technique ...

(Albjerryg, some of the advice given is from some guys who may be a little hazy on how the transmission really works ... including your nephew.

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albjerryg · 01-13-2018, 01:52 PM

Thanks for your input. Jerry

albjerryg · 01-14-2018, 11:08 AM

Sorry I thought about not responding to the last post but after a while I felt I should. I never asked about double clutching my original question was is there a way to synchronize my 1941 transmission. Most people have given a positive and helpful response that I appreciate and will try there suggestions and I thanks them for the help. I have a lot of confidence in my nephew he has been doing transmission for 40 years and does nothing else.> jerry

JM 35 Sedan · 01-14-2018, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albjerryg

Sorry I thought about not responding to the last post but after a while I felt I should. I never asked about double clutching my original question was is there a way to synchronize my 1941 transmission. Most people have given a positive and helpful response that I appreciate and will try there suggestions and I thanks them for the help. I have a lot of confidence in my nephew he has been doing transmission for 40 years and does nothing else.> jerry

Hey Jerry, I agree that most of the responders did try to help you. Sometimes it's difficult to pinpoint the original posters problem and come up with a recommendation for a solution. I would suggest checking the things that have been suggested, then come back with a followup post here on this same thread to let us know if there is any improvement in the shifting of your transmission.

Brendan · 01-14-2018, 01:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete

I used to road race with a standard 28 tooth Ford transmission.
After some practice it becomes very easy to downshift to first at 40 mph.

i did that in a 64 GMC pickup, at 60 mph i blew up the clutch disk... what a mess

albjerryg · 01-14-2018, 01:49 PM

I will do those thing suggested and get back to all. I guess I should tell you my car and shop are not at my house but at my camp and generally I get there a few days a week or every two weeks so it might be a while before I get to it. Thanks Jerry

Hoop · 01-14-2018, 02:20 PM

albjerrg,

You will have to excuse me, but I have to go on what you've told us.

If your nephew has been doing nothing but working on transmissions for 40 years, he should have been able to tell you with expert knowledge if "there was any way to synchronize the transmission."

If he did all the adjustments and did not find any problems ... maybe it's your driving technique.

You have not told us exactly when and how you're grinding the gears ... no nobody, except me, has asked.

albjerryg · 01-14-2018, 02:43 PM

Sorry If I offended you but I will try and do better next time. I guess I should give you the full story most people don't want to many details. About 6 months ago my clutch quite working and I don't have a car lift. So I brought it to my nephew and asked him to see what the problem was and adjust the clutch. He pulled it apart and fixed the problem and adjusted the clutch as I asked. I have not spoken to him since then or have I seen him. While I was fixing other thing on the car and changing out the interior I made note of how it would grind when I was just sitting still and wondered if there was a way to modify the transmission to be synchronized and so I and asked the question . The car run fine on the road and it does not give a problem shifting when driving it. At first I thought about changing out the transmission to automatic but found out It would be a lot bigger job, so that is why I asked if it was possible to synchronize the transmission. I hope that clear up everything. thanks Jerry

cmbrucew · 01-14-2018, 08:10 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCGNiTO79Os

I remember replacing a clutch/transmission brake on larger equipment. It was a small friction pack that was indexed to the spline of the pilot shaft, and engaged by pushing the clutch pedal all the way to the floor. They were very effective stopping the main shaft from turning.
Would be an interesting project to make one for a flathead.

Bruce

01-12-2018, 04:57 AM	#21
flatford8 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Lyman,ME. Posts: 2,630	Re: 1941 Ford transmission If your talking about going into 1st or reverse while sitting still....then yes....it’s a good idea to go into 2nd before selecting 1st or reverse.....I can’t give you the technical description but I believe the syncro in 2nd helps your shift to 1st or reverse....this is what I do and I get no grinding...I spent 35 yrs. in a trailer truck and shifting gears was my life...hope this helps....Mark __________________ I'm thinkin' about crankin' My ragged ol' truck up and haulin' myself into town. Billy Joe Shaver

01-12-2018, 07:46 AM	#22
Hoop Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Jacksonville FL Posts: 1,137	Re: 1941 Ford transmission Why are we trying to teach "albjerryg" how to double clutch? He lives in Louisiana. There are very few steep hills there that would require down shifting into low. While there may be some adjusting needed or some dragging, odds are he's not shifting correctly. I can make an otherwise satisfactory transmission grind every time ... even sitting still. How much is the car being driven? Lots we don't know about how he's trying to drive it. I would recommend a review of his technique ... (Albjerryg, some of the advice given is from some guys who may be a little hazy on how the transmission really works ... including your nephew.) __________________ "Remember that when it comes to intelligence, half of all of us are below average."

01-13-2018, 01:52 PM	#23
albjerryg Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Lafayette, La. Posts: 181	Re: 1941 Ford transmission Thanks for your input. Jerry

01-14-2018, 11:08 AM	#24
albjerryg Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Lafayette, La. Posts: 181	Re: 1941 Ford transmission Sorry I thought about not responding to the last post but after a while I felt I should. I never asked about double clutching my original question was is there a way to synchronize my 1941 transmission. Most people have given a positive and helpful response that I appreciate and will try there suggestions and I thanks them for the help. I have a lot of confidence in my nephew he has been doing transmission for 40 years and does nothing else.> jerry

01-14-2018, 01:49 PM	#27
albjerryg Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Lafayette, La. Posts: 181	Re: 1941 Ford transmission I will do those thing suggested and get back to all. I guess I should tell you my car and shop are not at my house but at my camp and generally I get there a few days a week or every two weeks so it might be a while before I get to it. Thanks Jerry Last edited by albjerryg; 01-14-2018 at 01:55 PM.

01-14-2018, 02:20 PM	#28
Hoop Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Jacksonville FL Posts: 1,137	Re: 1941 Ford transmission albjerrg, You will have to excuse me, but I have to go on what you've told us. If your nephew has been doing nothing but working on transmissions for 40 years, he should have been able to tell you with expert knowledge if "there was any way to synchronize the transmission." If he did all the adjustments and did not find any problems ... maybe it's your driving technique. You have not told us exactly when and how you're grinding the gears ... no nobody, except me, has asked. __________________ "Remember that when it comes to intelligence, half of all of us are below average."

01-14-2018, 02:43 PM	#29
albjerryg Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Lafayette, La. Posts: 181	Re: 1941 Ford transmission Sorry If I offended you but I will try and do better next time. I guess I should give you the full story most people don't want to many details. About 6 months ago my clutch quite working and I don't have a car lift. So I brought it to my nephew and asked him to see what the problem was and adjust the clutch. He pulled it apart and fixed the problem and adjusted the clutch as I asked. I have not spoken to him since then or have I seen him. While I was fixing other thing on the car and changing out the interior I made note of how it would grind when I was just sitting still and wondered if there was a way to modify the transmission to be synchronized and so I and asked the question . The car run fine on the road and it does not give a problem shifting when driving it. At first I thought about changing out the transmission to automatic but found out It would be a lot bigger job, so that is why I asked if it was possible to synchronize the transmission. I hope that clear up everything. thanks Jerry Last edited by albjerryg; 01-14-2018 at 03:26 PM.

01-14-2018, 08:10 PM	#30
cmbrucew Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: North of sandy ago, CA. Posts: 2,064	Re: 1941 Ford transmission https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCGNiTO79Os I remember replacing a clutch/transmission brake on larger equipment. It was a small friction pack that was indexed to the spline of the pilot shaft, and engaged by pushing the clutch pedal all the way to the floor. They were very effective stopping the main shaft from turning. Would be an interesting project to make one for a flathead. Bruce __________________ Works good Lasts long time