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samsonized · 11-19-2020, 05:53 PM

i have a 35 flathead i need to put in an engine stand. will it bolt up to the modern style universal engine stand with the four attaching points

Lawson Cox · 11-19-2020, 05:56 PM

If it is a UNIVERSAL engine stand I don't see why it wouldn't.

Cobra Joe · 11-19-2020, 06:10 PM

I was always told you should never hang a flathead by bellhousing bolts as the casting is not strong enough and you should only hang it from the exhaust ports.

samsonized · 11-19-2020, 06:15 PM

is that an adapter you can buy?

KiWinUS · 11-19-2020, 06:45 PM

Yes Stumpys Fab Works.

KiWinUS · 11-19-2020, 07:10 PM

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Oops let’s not forget HAMB member Havlers house of fab. He makes them also in Va.

hop up · 11-19-2020, 07:32 PM

Mike I may have a extra one but will have to see if I still have it . You need to get the KR Wilson flathead engine lift too to make things easier

hop up · 11-19-2020, 07:34 PM

A better pic with the part number

Hitman · 11-19-2020, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by hop up

A better pic with the part number

Do you have an extra one of those? I’ve been looking for the KRW version.

corvette8n · 11-20-2020, 11:15 AM

Got both of these at Stumpys.

19Fordy · 11-20-2020, 12:09 PM

Do NOT bolt a pre 1949 Ford V-8 engine to an engine stand buy the cast bellhousing.
Not safe. May break the cast iron. 1949-53 there is no problem.

Tim Ayers · 11-20-2020, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by hop up

A better pic with the part number

If anyone has a KR Wilson engine lifter like this that they want to sell, please PM.

KiWinUS · 11-20-2020, 01:24 PM

^^^^^^^^ I want one also.
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Cheers
Tony

Strick · 11-29-2020, 10:39 PM

been standing in line for one myself for awhile.....

V8COOPMAN · 11-29-2020, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 19Fordy

Do NOT bolt a pre 1949 Ford V-8 engine to an engine stand buy the cast bellhousing.
Not safe. May break the cast iron. 1949-53 there is no problem.

This gruesome picture is the result of what Jim (19Fordy) is talking about. Some folks get away with it, but like Dirty Harry said....."Do ya feel lucky? Well, DO YA, PUNK?" DD

Pete · 11-30-2020, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by V8COOPMAN

This gruesome picture is the result of what Jim (19Fordy) is talking about. Some folks get away with it, but like Dirty Harry said....."Do ya feel lucky? Well, DO YA, PUNK?" DD

Sorry, I don't buy it on that one. The cracked area is RUSTY for at least 8 inches on the right.

This subject is just like seat belts though, I wouldn't recommend any particular method for hanging a block or attaching belts.

V8COOPMAN · 11-30-2020, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete

Sorry, I don't buy it on that one. The cracked area is RUSTY for at least 8 inches on the right.

That's OK! Here's another "fake" one you can piss about! DD

Mart · 11-30-2020, 07:51 AM

The One above belongs to Neil "Biggles" Bennet. It's built to very high spec. I know Neil. He was able to repair it. Re the red one, who's to say it happened recently? It probably happened a while ago and the block was dumped in a corner. It could have had plenty of time to rust. I always use a side mount. Mart.

51 MERC-CT · 11-30-2020, 09:02 AM

Interesting on how thin the casting looks.
Have the tool to check but no block to check.

JSeery · 11-30-2020, 09:22 AM

It is thin, I current have a block that had the bell housing area busted sometime in the past and repaired. Whoever did the repair did a good job! But the broken area is much smaller than the photos posted. A look at the thickness in the bell area should convince you it might not be a good idea to hang a lot of weight off of it. In addition to the thin material, the bell move the center of gravity of the block out several inches from the mounting point.

Like a lot of things, folks have been doing it for years and getting away with it, in fact I would guess breaking one is fairly rare. But, even a small chance of a catastrophe would keep me from taking the chance.

It is fairly easy to fabricate a mount, I made one using a flat plate to bolt to the existing plate on the stand. Welded a piece on angle to it and the a smaller plate the correct shape to match the exhaust bolt pattern. You can use an exhaust manifold for the hole pattern.

Mart · 11-30-2020, 11:51 AM

Like JSeery above I, too, took advantage of the natural 45 degrees formed when using a piece of angle iron.

Next time you happen across a couple of foot length of heavy angle iron you should be saying to yourself "Ooh! Flatty side mount!".

V8COOPMAN · 11-30-2020, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mart

Next time you happen across a couple of foot length of heavy angle iron you should be saying to yourself "Ooh! Flatty side mount!".

Ya know, Mart.....This is only ONE of the many reasons you've become a famous YouTube movie star of note, well on your way to making million$......'CUZ YOU'VE GOT a 'special' sense of humor! DD

WBrown · 12-01-2020, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by V8COOPMAN

Ya know, Mart.....This is only ONE of the many reasons you've become a famous YouTube movie star of note, well on your way to making million$......'CUZ YOU'VE GOT a 'special' sense of humor! DD

He also has a "special" sense of know how

mercman from oz · 12-03-2020, 01:47 AM

This is what you need, a proper Engine Stand, built especially for the Flathead Ford V8 Engines. You get two of those side clamps, bolt one to each side of the Block then add the Engine to the Stand. Can't go wrong with this style Engine Stand. It is super strong and you can rotate the Engine into 4 positions and then Lock in place at the desired position. See Clamp on left, bottom photo.

Mart · 12-03-2020, 06:48 AM

^^ The one above is a nice sturdy unit. The only downside is that the deck surface is never horizontal which is better if trying to bore it.

Mart.

big job · 12-03-2020, 09:36 AM

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My way without buying cheap stands and driving your brain and taking up shop room.
A good bench with casters. Factory engines were built up vertically not on a engine
stand. All operations were done that way. The plus is, we have a roll away bench which
is always busy doing other work. I then built a top of oh 20 gauge with a lip and a
drain hole in the middle bucket underneath for cleaning etc. Only cost was the casters
hardware store the rest lumber we had from other jobs.. Not new idea I saw the engine
line on Yo-tube back when....

Howard Wade · 05-08-2021, 03:51 PM

Many thanks for the suggestions. If i buy a flat head side mount is one enough or do you mount one both sides of the engine. Thanks

Ford Freak · 05-08-2021, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Howard Wade

Many thanks for the suggestions. If i buy a flat head side mount is one enough or do you mount one both sides of the engine. Thanks

One has always worked fine for me . - F F

V8COOPMAN · 05-08-2021, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Howard Wade

Many thanks for the suggestions. If i buy a flat head side mount is one enough or do you mount one both sides of the engine. Thanks

Howard.....All you need is ONE. In fact, two would be difficult to use! Welcome to F'Barn! DD

Zax40 · 05-08-2021, 07:35 PM

I just ordered one from Stumpy’s last week. It showed up in less than a week. Got my spare flathead mounted to the stand with it today. Pretty happy with it. For those of you using this style mount how hard is it to flip the motor over on the stand? One man or two man job?

tubman · 05-08-2021, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zax40

I just ordered one from Stumpy’s last week. It showed up in less than a week. Got my spare flathead mounted to the stand with it today. Pretty happy with it. For those of you using this style mount how hard is it to flip the motor over on the stand? One man or two man job?

I will quote Roy D. Mercer here : "How big a' boy are ya'?"

JSeery · 05-08-2021, 11:53 PM

I can do it and I'm old and weak!

Mart · 05-09-2021, 03:13 AM

One man job. Does it have a hole for a bar to go through? I use a 30" bar on mine and can turn it over. It's a bit heavy when fully built but still do-able.

Mart.

51 MERC-CT · 05-09-2021, 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mart

One man job. Does it have a hole for a bar to go through? I use a 30" bar on mine and can turn it over. It's a bit heavy when fully built but still do-able.

Mart.

Had a spare boat winch, Soo, guess what.

11-19-2020, 05:53 PM	#1
samsonized Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 562	flathead engine stand i have a 35 flathead i need to put in an engine stand. will it bolt up to the modern style universal engine stand with the four attaching points

11-19-2020, 05:56 PM	#2
Lawson Cox Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Above the gnat line in Georgia Posts: 7,009	Re: flathead engine stand If it is a UNIVERSAL engine stand I don't see why it wouldn't. __________________ Life is like a roll of toilet paper. The closer to the end, the faster it goes. It is better to be seen, than viewed. "We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm".

11-19-2020, 06:10 PM	#3
Cobra Joe Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Cape Cod, MA Posts: 72	Re: flathead engine stand I was always told you should never hang a flathead by bellhousing bolts as the casting is not strong enough and you should only hang it from the exhaust ports. __________________ 1957 Fairlane 500 1939 Ford Coupe

11-19-2020, 06:15 PM	#4
samsonized Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 562	Re: flathead engine stand is that an adapter you can buy?

11-19-2020, 06:45 PM	#5
KiWinUS Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Charlotte NC KiWi-L100 available here Posts: 2,960	Re: flathead engine stand Yes Stumpys Fab Works.

11-19-2020, 07:10 PM	#6
KiWinUS Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Charlotte NC KiWi-L100 available here Posts: 2,960	Re: flathead engine stand Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Oops let’s not forget HAMB member Havlers house of fab. He makes them also in Va.

11-20-2020, 12:09 PM	#11
19Fordy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Coral Springs FL Posts: 10,936	Re: flathead engine stand Do NOT bolt a pre 1949 Ford V-8 engine to an engine stand buy the cast bellhousing. Not safe. May break the cast iron. 1949-53 there is no problem.

11-20-2020, 01:24 PM	#13
KiWinUS Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Charlotte NC KiWi-L100 available here Posts: 2,960	Re: flathead engine stand ^^^^^^^^ I want one also. Y Cheers Tony

11-29-2020, 10:39 PM	#14
Strick Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Marietta, GA Posts: 1,099	Re: flathead engine stand been standing in line for one myself for awhile..... __________________ 1940 Mercury Looking for DENVER heads - 81AS - 99AS - 19AS

11-30-2020, 07:51 AM	#18
Mart Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Solihull, England. Posts: 8,749	Re: flathead engine stand The One above belongs to Neil "Biggles" Bennet. It's built to very high spec. I know Neil. He was able to repair it. Re the red one, who's to say it happened recently? It probably happened a while ago and the block was dumped in a corner. It could have had plenty of time to rust. I always use a side mount. Mart.

11-30-2020, 11:51 AM	#21
Mart Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Solihull, England. Posts: 8,749	Re: flathead engine stand Like JSeery above I, too, took advantage of the natural 45 degrees formed when using a piece of angle iron. Next time you happen across a couple of foot length of heavy angle iron you should be saying to yourself "Ooh! Flatty side mount!".

12-03-2020, 01:47 AM	#24
mercman from oz Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 10,361	Re: flathead engine stand This is what you need, a proper Engine Stand, built especially for the Flathead Ford V8 Engines. You get two of those side clamps, bolt one to each side of the Block then add the Engine to the Stand. Can't go wrong with this style Engine Stand. It is super strong and you can rotate the Engine into 4 positions and then Lock in place at the desired position. See Clamp on left, bottom photo.

12-03-2020, 06:48 AM	#25
Mart Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Solihull, England. Posts: 8,749	Re: flathead engine stand ^^ The one above is a nice sturdy unit. The only downside is that the deck surface is never horizontal which is better if trying to bore it. Mart.

12-03-2020, 09:36 AM	#26
big job Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Dighton, Mass Posts: 1,230	Re: flathead engine stand Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) My way without buying cheap stands and driving your brain and taking up shop room. A good bench with casters. Factory engines were built up vertically not on a engine stand. All operations were done that way. The plus is, we have a roll away bench which is always busy doing other work. I then built a top of oh 20 gauge with a lip and a drain hole in the middle bucket underneath for cleaning etc. Only cost was the casters hardware store the rest lumber we had from other jobs.. Not new idea I saw the engine line on Yo-tube back when....

05-08-2021, 03:51 PM	#27
Howard Wade Junior Member Join Date: May 2021 Posts: 5	Re: flathead engine stand Many thanks for the suggestions. If i buy a flat head side mount is one enough or do you mount one both sides of the engine. Thanks

05-08-2021, 07:35 PM	#30
Zax40 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 302	Re: flathead engine stand I just ordered one from Stumpy’s last week. It showed up in less than a week. Got my spare flathead mounted to the stand with it today. Pretty happy with it. For those of you using this style mount how hard is it to flip the motor over on the stand? One man or two man job?

05-08-2021, 11:53 PM	#32
JSeery Member Emeritus Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Wichita KS Posts: 16,132	Re: flathead engine stand I can do it and I'm old and weak!

05-09-2021, 03:13 AM	#33
Mart Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Solihull, England. Posts: 8,749	Re: flathead engine stand One man job. Does it have a hole for a bar to go through? I use a 30" bar on mine and can turn it over. It's a bit heavy when fully built but still do-able. Mart.