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Old 11-18-2016, 04:15 PM   #1
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Thumbs down Crap Gas

This is what You get when todays modern fuel sits to long..... it ate right through the metal pump and destroyed everything else... not to mention the smell on the hands that never comes off...




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Old 11-18-2016, 04:22 PM   #2
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how long did it sit? I've seen regular gas do some awful things after years of sitting...
not to mentioned it looks like its stained red so ag use gas in a standard vehicle is a huge no no...
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Old 11-18-2016, 04:35 PM   #3
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This is why Mitch cautioned his Old Dad, whose 2004 Dakota was only driven a bit, for over a YEAR.
Fortunately, the gas smelled OK & I let my Home Help Gal, Perla, drive it for a week, to get rid of it & fill it with NEW fuel. Had John dump in a quart of ATF, just to feel "GOOD"---
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Mitch, you should send those pix to your Comgresspeople, along with a letter explaining why we need regular old type gas again, and get rid of this corn givaway.
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Old 11-18-2016, 05:41 PM   #5
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Mitch, you should send those pix to your Comgresspeople, along with a letter explaining why we need regular old type gas again, and get rid of this corn givaway.
Send it to him for a paperweight. Should make his office smell real nice!
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Old 11-18-2016, 06:22 PM   #6
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It is my opinion that Ethynol was not totally responsible for that entire damage. I believe it is a bad product but not that bad. Wayne
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Old 11-18-2016, 07:54 PM   #7
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bbbbbbut but but Mitch there are those on here that say there is no problem with gasahol........ how can this be.....

imagine the downstream side of the fuel system. You have your work cut out for you

In the old days the pure gas could sit in the tank for literally years and not cause trouble
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Old 11-18-2016, 08:00 PM   #8
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That's picture shows why my Model A and yard equipment run non-adulterated gas. i.e. No corn crap.
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Old 11-18-2016, 08:10 PM   #9
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if you can get it......
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Old 11-18-2016, 08:28 PM   #10
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We dropped a tank recently on a car that had sat since the early 80's... the fuel was still useable..
Our junk man threw that fuel in his hooptie truck and burned rubber out of the lot.. he was one happy camper... i think it was the old pink sunoco 94
I would have put it in the A but i didnt want to snap an axle
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Old 11-18-2016, 09:51 PM   #11
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Just pulled and replaced one resembling yours from a 1988 Pontiac Fiero GT with 4-5 year old gas in it. What was left of the fuel pump strainer crumbled to dust when touched. The old fuel, ~5 gal, and diluted with 5 gal fresh gas will burn fine in my Model A after particulate filtration.
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Old 11-18-2016, 10:39 PM   #12
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Yep, I've had the metal screens in my gas cans destroyed by crap gas also. Years ago I learned first hand just how bad crap gas is and how quickly it goes bad. I had some stored in a jug for about 6 months and put it in my motorbike. The next day I had to remove the head and spray the exhaust valve with Kroil, then use a hammer to drive the valve down several times until it final freed up again.
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Old 11-18-2016, 10:45 PM   #13
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Ethanol and metal don't play well together, now if your Model A has plastic fuel tank, fuel lines, you'll be fine
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Old 11-18-2016, 10:50 PM   #14
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bbbbbbut but but Mitch there are those on here that say there is no problem with gasahol........ how can this be.....

imagine the downstream side of the fuel system. You have your work cut out for you

In the old days the pure gas could sit in the tank for literally years and not cause trouble
Yes but maybe in the old days the pump was a better quality. Wayne
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Old 11-19-2016, 06:02 AM   #15
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At Lamberts' Wrecking Yard, the LAST rites for a car were to BURN it & cut it up for SCRAP.
I'd remove the gas tank, strain the gas through a CHAMOIS & burn it in my '26 Chev 2 door!
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Old 11-19-2016, 06:56 AM   #16
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There's the reason I store with drained then fogged tanks and bowls for everything! I had the stuff destroy a tank and pump on my sandrail back in the 70s.
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Old 11-19-2016, 08:50 AM   #17
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"Ran when Parked" Letting any piece of machinery sit idle is the worst thing you can do to it. If you have any thing you value, its best to use it it once a week or so , if you can. I cringe every time I read an ad about a Model A that " has 300 miles on rebuilt engine...from 10 years ago".
I "sort of" understand why you wouldnt want to run a high points show car, but anything else and you're letting your time and money go to waste, you're definitely not "saving it for later".
I've read all the comments from the California guys about the gas and how they have no trouble with it, but lately I've learned people in California dont think the way I do anyway.
Now, time to get off my ass and follow some of my own advice, its going to be a fine day to take a drive here today.
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Old 11-19-2016, 09:45 AM   #18
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Jay leno is trying to sway the leaders in California to end the use of ethanol. Not having much luck.
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Old 11-19-2016, 09:54 AM   #19
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Maybe theres different ethanol in different parts of the country. I have used nothing but ethanol since it came out, in my A's, garden tractor, chainsaw, and my 8n tractor. The A's set from Nov. to Apr., the 8n gets used once a year to grade the drive way and the chainsaw very rarely. I never had a problem with any starting or running and some of the gas in the 8n has been in it for at least 5 years.?? don't know! I am in southeast Mi.
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Jay leno is trying to sway the leaders in California to end the use of ethanol. Not having much luck.
If a man with that influence is not successful, we don't stand a chance! Let it go. Wayne
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