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bnchief · 11-23-2016, 09:35 AM

I got my steering box apart it was full of grease, i have done this before on my 37 ford pickup because of leaking into the light harness with mobil 1 synthetic grease and it actually steered much better. That said however i am putting a new needle housing on this gear box to eliminate the bushing since it has needle bearings and a seal the steering shaft is good and it was tight with the bushings so i see no issue does anybody do this and when you do can i just use the 600w or is grease better?

Gary WA · 11-23-2016, 11:22 AM

Oil But there will be other views! They make a steering gear end plate but only for two tooth unit.,prevents oil from leaking.

DaWizard · 11-23-2016, 11:49 AM

I have always used the grease, but then it has been 50+ years since I rebuilt a steering box and I don't plan to do the one I have now, so if you can find a seal that will not allow oil to leak into the switch, hey, go for it. There have been great breakthroughs in seals in 50 years.

Bill, nice delivery.

bnchief · 11-23-2016, 12:00 PM

did not know about the endplate

Gary WA · 11-23-2016, 12:20 PM

Here you go from Model a Venders. #4

Mitch//pa · 11-23-2016, 12:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bnchief

did not know about the endplate

I PM'ed u about it earlier

MAG · 11-23-2016, 02:46 PM

"They make a steering gear end plate but only for two tooth unit.,prevents oil from leaking."
Part for 7 tooth box is 5030- Bratton's.
7 tooth steering shaft retainer with tube.

1931 flamingo · 11-23-2016, 06:09 PM

Penn-Rite steering box lube..................no leaky.
Paul in CT

bnchief · 11-23-2016, 09:20 PM

Mitch i got it and the box needs help the grease in it did not do it any favors.

Synchro909 · 11-23-2016, 09:25 PM

FWIW, I haven't heard any favourable comments about the needle beraing conversion, only negative.

Tom Wesenberg · 11-23-2016, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synchro909

FWIW, I haven't heard any favourable comments about the needle beraing conversion, only negative.

Yes, I'd stick with the bushings.

ian Simpson · 11-23-2016, 10:12 PM

I rebuilt the 7-tooth steering box on our 1928 Tudor last winter. I could not find one of the clever oil retainer tubes to fit my particular setup. I did not want to use grease as that was what was in the box when I tore it down. A lot more rust than lubricant.

The seal I found at several vendors appears to be an ineffectual piece of felt.

In its place I installed a rubber/fabric washer designed for a water tap stem. It has not lost a drip in several hundred miles of city driving.

Unfortunately I cannot give any hint as to what make or model of tap as it came from a box of generic washers bought some thirty or more years ago.

31a · 11-24-2016, 12:35 PM

Oil not grease!

zzlegend · 11-24-2016, 01:19 PM

As flamingo said,,,,,penrite

http://www.restorationstuff.com/pdf/...plyCompany.pdf

Scroll down to page 25 ,,,,,,LUB009 Steering box lube. That's all I use in 3 of mine.

11-23-2016, 09:35 AM	#1
bnchief Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 252	steering gear box questions I got my steering box apart it was full of grease, i have done this before on my 37 ford pickup because of leaking into the light harness with mobil 1 synthetic grease and it actually steered much better. That said however i am putting a new needle housing on this gear box to eliminate the bushing since it has needle bearings and a seal the steering shaft is good and it was tight with the bushings so i see no issue does anybody do this and when you do can i just use the 600w or is grease better?

11-23-2016, 11:49 AM	#3
DaWizard BANNED Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Dizzyland Ca Posts: 332	Re: steering gear box questions I have always used the grease, but then it has been 50+ years since I rebuilt a steering box and I don't plan to do the one I have now, so if you can find a seal that will not allow oil to leak into the switch, hey, go for it. There have been great breakthroughs in seals in 50 years. Bill, nice delivery. __________________ New owner of '28 Tudor Previously owned; '30 Sport Coupe '28 left brake ccPickup '31 SW Town Sedan '28 AA Stake Bed '30 Cabriolet '42 Super Deluxe 4door Sedan "If it don't fit, get a bigger hammer. If it breaks...... ya needed a new one anyway!!" Doing a good job here is like wetting your pants in a dark suit. It gives you a warm feeling, but nobody notices. Never pass up a bathroom Never neglect an erection Never trust a fart

11-23-2016, 02:46 PM	#7
MAG Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 925	Re: steering gear box questions "They make a steering gear end plate but only for two tooth unit.,prevents oil from leaking." Part for 7 tooth box is 5030- Bratton's. 7 tooth steering shaft retainer with tube. __________________ I noticed the harder I work the luckier I get!

11-23-2016, 06:09 PM	#8
1931 flamingo Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: new britain,ct 06052 Posts: 9,390	Re: steering gear box questions Penn-Rite steering box lube..................no leaky. Paul in CT

11-23-2016, 09:20 PM	#9
bnchief Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 252	Re: steering gear box questions Mitch i got it and the box needs help the grease in it did not do it any favors.

11-23-2016, 12:00 PM	#4
bnchief Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 252	Re: steering gear box questions did not know about the endplate

11-23-2016, 09:25 PM	#10
Synchro909 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 7,496	Re: steering gear box questions FWIW, I haven't heard any favourable comments about the needle beraing conversion, only negative. __________________ I'm part of the only ever generation with an analogue childhood and a digital adulthood.

11-23-2016, 10:12 PM	#12
ian Simpson Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 709	Re: steering gear box questions I rebuilt the 7-tooth steering box on our 1928 Tudor last winter. I could not find one of the clever oil retainer tubes to fit my particular setup. I did not want to use grease as that was what was in the box when I tore it down. A lot more rust than lubricant. The seal I found at several vendors appears to be an ineffectual piece of felt. In its place I installed a rubber/fabric washer designed for a water tap stem. It has not lost a drip in several hundred miles of city driving. Unfortunately I cannot give any hint as to what make or model of tap as it came from a box of generic washers bought some thirty or more years ago.

11-24-2016, 12:35 PM	#13
31a Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: College Station, Tx Posts: 326	Re: steering gear box questions Oil not grease!

11-24-2016, 01:19 PM	#14
zzlegend Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Reseda, Calif. Posts: 2,188	Re: steering gear box questions As flamingo said,,,,,penrite http://www.restorationstuff.com/pdf/...plyCompany.pdf Scroll down to page 25 ,,,,,,LUB009 Steering box lube. That's all I use in 3 of mine.