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Cody_1948 · 02-01-2017, 10:50 PM

Hi Guys!
I was looking online and found a 1935 Tudor two door coupe. the seller saids That it starts,runs & stops. He went on to say he got it as a parts car. Its missing the hood, the dash, and glass, and seats. So its pretty much a running gear and body. I wanted to know. If for one if there as good as any other two door coupe. Also how hard are parts to find and for a car in this shape is it worth. It has a windshield.. also no title. And Henry Ford black.
Thanks guy!

P.S I know photos help. I'll try to upload them once I'm home from work!

Cody_1948 · 02-01-2017, 10:53 PM

Its a tudor sedan*****

JM 35 Sedan · 02-01-2017, 11:36 PM

I thought so.....is it a flat back or trunk back sedan? Some pictures would be appreciated. Someone here can help you post them. Not really that difficult.

VeryTangled · 02-01-2017, 11:41 PM

Hi Everyone. Just trying to help the OP and clarify.

If we are talking '35 Coupe, it will have two doors, a hard top, and no back seat. Those are some of the more desirable models and bring higher prices from buyers. If it has a back seat and a hard top, it's a Sedan, which came with two doors and a split front seat (Tudor) and four doors with a solid front seat (Fordor), but always a back seat. With the Sedans, it could have a trunk (humpback) or not (flat or slantback).

Just me but the no title thing would be a pretty big speed bump.

Seth Swoboda · 02-02-2017, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VeryTangled

Hi Everyone. Just trying to help the OP and clarify.

If we are talking '35 Coupe, it will have two doors, a hard top, and no back seat. Those are some of the more desirable models and bring higher prices from buyers. If it has a back seat and a hard top, it's a Sedan, which came with two doors and a split front seat (Tudor) and four doors with a solid front seat (Fordor), but always a back seat. With the Sedans, it could have a trunk (humpback) or not (flat or slantback).

Just me but the no title thing would be a pretty big speed bump.

I agree with Jeff. From my experience the no title has the potential to be a huge headache. I'd save my money for another '35 if it were me.

Vanspeed · 02-02-2017, 09:59 AM

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No titles in Michigan mean a huge headache now. The title once you get it will be bonded. I pass on cars now that have no title regardless of I really like it.

TagMan · 02-02-2017, 10:34 AM

Different states have much different rules/laws, which make buying cars from other states a PITA. For example, NYS won't register a car as a "coupe". They will only list it as a "sedan". Also, no titles pre-1972.

Gig · 02-02-2017, 11:21 PM

The few parts that you need are not that hard to find. The 35 and 36 dash are same. You can find more than one on the Hamb and e-bay .The hoods and grills are different.You can convert to the 36 look using that
hood and grill which are also available as above. I have a 35 5w coupe. A 35 3window coupe is considered more valuable by many but I like my 5

Vanspeed · 02-02-2017, 11:23 PM

It is not a coupe, he later said it is a Tudor sedan.

RalphM · 02-02-2017, 11:55 PM

Sounds like a starter project. Not worth a whole lot as is , especially missing a title. JMHO

Snouts out · 02-03-2017, 04:46 AM

If it's the right price go for it,they don't make e'm any more!

J Franklin · 02-03-2017, 01:21 PM

I did not see the price or the car. At some price it might be worth the hassle.

Charlie Stephens · 02-03-2017, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by J Franklin

I did not see the price or the car. At some price it might be worth the hassle.

What you say is true only if you include negative numbers. There are many cars that require so much that they are not a good "buy" even if they are free.

Charlie Stephens

JSeery · 02-03-2017, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie Stephens

What you say is true only if you include negative numbers. There are many cars that require so much that they are not a good "buy" even if they are free.

Charlie Stephens

Now there is a point of view! OMG, by this standard the cars I select to work on would be so far in the negative column it would take a truck load of money to pay me to haul them off!!!

I enjoy the challange of bringing something back to life most folks would reject. But, that's just me. By the way, anyone having some 30s era stuff your wanting to pay me to get cleared out for you, just contact me!

rotorwrench · 02-03-2017, 05:45 PM

If a person has a hankering for a particular year model and they know they are going to get one before they kick the bucket come hell or high water, they can justify whatever part or parts will get them toward their goal as long as the price doesn't break the bank and they have a place to store the stuff. A running engine is a good investment if it's still at least a good core. A decent frame with a title might turn up and there ya go. You can never have too many parts for an old car.

Ownership can generally always be established through a local judge or magistrate if you know one. I've seen more than a few cars, motorcycles, and aircraft change hands this way with no paperwork at all.

I've heard of more than one guy starting out with one part to get to their goal of a completed vehicle My pops first car was a 1935 Ford flat back tudor sedan.

skidmarks · 02-03-2017, 07:08 PM

If its priced right and say the frame is nice, there are plenty of ok shape cars out there with titles with a bad frame. Lots of ways to look at it. Bought plenty of donor cars that ended up being better then the original project. The green 37 to the left was passed over by a couple people that said it was junk. In less then a year i was driving it

TJ · 02-03-2017, 07:59 PM

There's way too many facts missing to even hazard a guess on this one. Missing the title can be a real pain in certain states and not a problem in other states. If it was on a property for a certain amount of time it can be titled via a lien sale. A person could also file for a lost title. Bottom line is it worth it for the trouble?

cas3 · 02-03-2017, 10:41 PM

a title in minnesota is the least of my worries thanks goodness, but other states can be a big problem i understand. however, in any state its just a few more hoops to jump thru, and a couple more dollars. bonds are nothing, again just another hundred bucks for the big shot insurance companys, and its for a 3 year period which you can sell if you wish. it means nothing to me

Cody_1948 · 02-03-2017, 10:54 PM

Sorry on the photos guys. Been getting held up at work. Been doing some long days I'll upload photos tomorrow !!!!

Cody_1948 · 02-05-2017, 06:21 PM

VeryTangled · 02-05-2017, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cody_1948

Hi Guys!... Also how hard are parts to find and for a car in this shape is it worth.

Hi Everyone, Cody, parts are not terribly hard to find for '35 Fords like this one, but isn't there a lot of interior stuff missing?

My eyes see a lot of work before it's a driving car. I'm not looking for another one, but whatever it trades hands for is a fraction of what it will take to get it going down the road safely and in comfort. (Consider upwards of a thousand for five tires mounted and balanced.)

A finished car would be in the twenties, this one, from the photos, and without a title, less than $4K, possibly a lot less.

JM 35 Sedan · 02-05-2017, 11:11 PM

Cody, from what I can see of the body, and other sheet metal in your pictures, it looks to be in nice condition, but there's a lot that can't be seen. The paint even looks pretty good from what I can see, but again, difficult to tell for sure in those pictures. Maybe back up a little with that camera and take some shots that show more of the complete car. Maybe some pics of the fenders would tell the story on their condition. What kind of rust, if any, does it have in body panels and fenders? The front toe boards, trans cover, floor boards that are visible appear to be good shape, and nut rusted through. The engine looks complete, and maybe it's even original to that car. The owner said it runs, but how well does it run? The condition of transmission and rear gears are also important to know. The missing items are not that difficult to find, and the title situation can most likely be resolved. I have a soft spot in my heart for '35 slantback sedans, so I would probably be inclined to buy it "IF" the price is right, and that seems to be biggest unknown for us to make a good call on this one.

Detonator · 02-05-2017, 11:50 PM

'35 slantbacks are great looking cars and from the photos you've posted, it looks like this could be a cool project. Is this your first build? There's a lot of work ahead of you, plus time and money. Kudos to you if you decide to tackle it, you'll find a lot of support here on the Barn.

Vics Stuff · 02-06-2017, 11:22 AM

looks like the body is in real good condition from the pics. That is a nice slant back tudor sedan. I bought a complete non running one 5 years ago out of minnesota. Clean body. needs rear fenders. I bought it for $1,800.00. That was a good buy and even came with a title.
Vic

35to56fords · 02-08-2017, 08:30 PM

I talked to the owner of this car a while back and saw pictures. I thought it might be a decent deal for the money he was asking then. It is too far for me to just go look at it without making a commitment to buy it. The owner was honest about some poor previous work done before he got it. I would want to get a close up and crawl all over it.

Look at the floor in the pictures. What is that? Possibly mat fiberglass? What is under it and how much work will it be to fix it properly. If that was done over rust, what is under the paint that does look decent in the pictures.

It may be a good project. Just look at it very close, bring a magnet and know what your will have to do to make a nice car out of it.

02-01-2017, 10:50 PM	#1
Cody_1948 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: MI Posts: 211	Found 1935 Tudor need some help Hi Guys! I was looking online and found a 1935 Tudor two door coupe. the seller saids That it starts,runs & stops. He went on to say he got it as a parts car. Its missing the hood, the dash, and glass, and seats. So its pretty much a running gear and body. I wanted to know. If for one if there as good as any other two door coupe. Also how hard are parts to find and for a car in this shape is it worth. It has a windshield.. also no title. And Henry Ford black. Thanks guy! P.S I know photos help. I'll try to upload them once I'm home from work!

02-01-2017, 10:53 PM	#2
Cody_1948 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: MI Posts: 211	Re: Found 1935 Tudor need some help Its a tudor sedan*****

02-01-2017, 11:36 PM	#3
JM 35 Sedan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Near Rising Sun, Maryland Posts: 10,858	Re: Found 1935 Tudor need some help I thought so.....is it a flat back or trunk back sedan? Some pictures would be appreciated. Someone here can help you post them. Not really that difficult. __________________ *John* *"Never give up on what you really want to do. The person with big dreams is more powerful than one with all the facts". Albert Einstein*

02-01-2017, 11:41 PM	#4
VeryTangled Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: (Not far enough...) Outside of DC Posts: 3,387	Re: Found 1935 Tudor need some help Hi Everyone. Just trying to help the OP and clarify. If we are talking '35 Coupe, it will have two doors, a hard top, and no back seat. Those are some of the more desirable models and bring higher prices from buyers. If it has a back seat and a hard top, it's a Sedan, which came with two doors and a split front seat (Tudor) and four doors with a solid front seat (Fordor), but always a back seat. With the Sedans, it could have a trunk (humpback) or not (flat or slantback). Just me but the no title thing would be a pretty big speed bump. __________________ -Jeff H Have you thought about supporting the Early Ford V-8 Foundation Museum? Last edited by VeryTangled; 02-01-2017 at 11:56 PM. Reason: added clarification

02-02-2017, 09:59 AM	#6
Vanspeed Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Suttons Bay, Mich. Posts: 3,384	Re: Found 1935 Tudor need some help Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) No titles in Michigan mean a huge headache now. The title once you get it will be bonded. I pass on cars now that have no title regardless of I really like it. __________________ *Respecting and Resurrecting Ford Model A's.*

02-02-2017, 10:34 AM	#7
TagMan Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Alvaton, Kentucky, USA Posts: 955	Re: Found 1935 Tudor need some help Different states have much different rules/laws, which make buying cars from other states a PITA. For example, NYS won't register a car as a "coupe". They will only list it as a "sedan". Also, no titles pre-1972.

02-02-2017, 11:21 PM	#8
Gig Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Pembroke NH Posts: 1	Re: Found 1935 Tudor need some help The few parts that you need are not that hard to find. The 35 and 36 dash are same. You can find more than one on the Hamb and e-bay .The hoods and grills are different.You can convert to the 36 look using that hood and grill which are also available as above. I have a 35 5w coupe. A 35 3window coupe is considered more valuable by many but I like my 5

02-02-2017, 11:23 PM	#9
Vanspeed Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Suttons Bay, Mich. Posts: 3,384	Re: Found 1935 Tudor need some help It is not a coupe, he later said it is a Tudor sedan. __________________ *Respecting and Resurrecting Ford Model A's.*

02-02-2017, 11:55 PM	#10
RalphM Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: North Pole, Alaska Posts: 2,651	Re: Found 1935 Tudor need some help Sounds like a starter project. Not worth a whole lot as is , especially missing a title. JMHO

02-03-2017, 04:46 AM	#11
Snouts out Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Covedale,oh Posts: 226	Re: Found 1935 Tudor need some help If it's the right price go for it,they don't make e'm any more!

02-03-2017, 01:21 PM	#12
J Franklin Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,963	Re: Found 1935 Tudor need some help I did not see the price or the car. At some price it might be worth the hassle.

02-03-2017, 05:45 PM	#15
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 16,431	Re: Found 1935 Tudor need some help If a person has a hankering for a particular year model and they know they are going to get one before they kick the bucket come hell or high water, they can justify whatever part or parts will get them toward their goal as long as the price doesn't break the bank and they have a place to store the stuff. A running engine is a good investment if it's still at least a good core. A decent frame with a title might turn up and there ya go. You can never have too many parts for an old car. Ownership can generally always be established through a local judge or magistrate if you know one. I've seen more than a few cars, motorcycles, and aircraft change hands this way with no paperwork at all. I've heard of more than one guy starting out with one part to get to their goal of a completed vehicle My pops first car was a 1935 Ford flat back tudor sedan.

02-03-2017, 07:08 PM	#16
skidmarks Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: newark, delaware Posts: 3,735	Re: Found 1935 Tudor need some help If its priced right and say the frame is nice, there are plenty of ok shape cars out there with titles with a bad frame. Lots of ways to look at it. Bought plenty of donor cars that ended up being better then the original project. The green 37 to the left was passed over by a couple people that said it was junk. In less then a year i was driving it

02-03-2017, 07:59 PM	#17
TJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Napa,California Posts: 6,037	Re: Found 1935 Tudor need some help There's way too many facts missing to even hazard a guess on this one. Missing the title can be a real pain in certain states and not a problem in other states. If it was on a property for a certain amount of time it can be titled via a lien sale. A person could also file for a lost title. Bottom line is it worth it for the trouble?

02-03-2017, 10:41 PM	#18
cas3 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: sw minnesota Posts: 4,573	Re: Found 1935 Tudor need some help a title in minnesota is the least of my worries thanks goodness, but other states can be a big problem i understand. however, in any state its just a few more hoops to jump thru, and a couple more dollars. bonds are nothing, again just another hundred bucks for the big shot insurance companys, and its for a 3 year period which you can sell if you wish. it means nothing to me

02-03-2017, 10:54 PM	#19
Cody_1948 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: MI Posts: 211	Re: Found 1935 Tudor need some help Sorry on the photos guys. Been getting held up at work. Been doing some long days I'll upload photos tomorrow !!!!

02-05-2017, 06:21 PM	#20
Cody_1948 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: MI Posts: 211	Re: Found 1935 Tudor need some help

02-05-2017, 11:11 PM	#22
JM 35 Sedan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Near Rising Sun, Maryland Posts: 10,858	Re: Found 1935 Tudor need some help Cody, from what I can see of the body, and other sheet metal in your pictures, it looks to be in nice condition, but there's a lot that can't be seen. The paint even looks pretty good from what I can see, but again, difficult to tell for sure in those pictures. Maybe back up a little with that camera and take some shots that show more of the complete car. Maybe some pics of the fenders would tell the story on their condition. What kind of rust, if any, does it have in body panels and fenders? The front toe boards, trans cover, floor boards that are visible appear to be good shape, and nut rusted through. The engine looks complete, and maybe it's even original to that car. The owner said it runs, but how well does it run? The condition of transmission and rear gears are also important to know. The missing items are not that difficult to find, and the title situation can most likely be resolved. I have a soft spot in my heart for '35 slantback sedans, so I would probably be inclined to buy it "IF" the price is right, and that seems to be biggest unknown for us to make a good call on this one. __________________ *John* *"Never give up on what you really want to do. The person with big dreams is more powerful than one with all the facts". Albert Einstein* Last edited by JM 35 Sedan; 02-06-2017 at 12:33 AM.

02-05-2017, 11:50 PM	#23
Detonator Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Santa Cruz Posts: 391	Re: Found 1935 Tudor need some help '35 slantbacks are great looking cars and from the photos you've posted, it looks like this could be a cool project. Is this your first build? There's a lot of work ahead of you, plus time and money. Kudos to you if you decide to tackle it, you'll find a lot of support here on the Barn. __________________ Seabright Hot Rods

02-06-2017, 11:22 AM	#24
Vics Stuff Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Reno Nevada Posts: 391	Re: Found 1935 Tudor need some help looks like the body is in real good condition from the pics. That is a nice slant back tudor sedan. I bought a complete non running one 5 years ago out of minnesota. Clean body. needs rear fenders. I bought it for $1,800.00. That was a good buy and even came with a title. Vic

02-08-2017, 08:30 PM	#25
35to56fords Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 3	Re: Found 1935 Tudor need some help I talked to the owner of this car a while back and saw pictures. I thought it might be a decent deal for the money he was asking then. It is too far for me to just go look at it without making a commitment to buy it. The owner was honest about some poor previous work done before he got it. I would want to get a close up and crawl all over it. Look at the floor in the pictures. What is that? Possibly mat fiberglass? What is under it and how much work will it be to fix it properly. If that was done over rust, what is under the paint that does look decent in the pictures. It may be a good project. Just look at it very close, bring a magnet and know what your will have to do to make a nice car out of it.