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09-08-2024, 11:36 AM | #1 |
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29 Model A :replacing timing gear, aluminum or phenolic? How to determine oversize
New to Model A: the timing gear has missing teeth, should I go to aluminum or phenolic. And how to determine if to go to the oversized gear 3/5 ths
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09-08-2024, 01:19 PM | #2 |
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Re: 29 Model A :replacing timing gear, aluminum or phenolic? How to determine oversiz
By how it fits— the backlash checking at several points rotating the crankshaft, the wear on the crankshaft gear was sometimes compensated by oversized gear and sometimes for the alignment of the crankshaft centerline.
Ideally both gears (crank and cam) should replaced |
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09-08-2024, 01:29 PM | #3 |
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Re: 29 Model A :replacing timing gear, aluminum or phenolic? How to determine oversiz
I have always replaced with the phenolic gear.
I have never used an oversized gear even on a high mileage engine. My feeling has been that if the crank gear is that worn, both should be replaced. Enjoy. |
09-08-2024, 09:10 PM | #4 |
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Re: 29 Model A :replacing timing gear, aluminum or phenolic? How to determine oversiz
Hard for me to see how a phenolic cam gear can wear a steel crank gear. Last engine I built had 0.016” backlash with the old phenolic cam gear, a new phenolic gear brought that down to <0.003” and it’s running great. Yes, I can see on an improperly mothballed engine with corroded teeth on the crank gear might be cause for replacement, but absent visible wear or pitting I would not routinely replace the crank gear.
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09-08-2024, 11:46 PM | #5 |
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Re: 29 Model A :replacing timing gear, aluminum or phenolic? How to determine oversiz
Dave Mc Eachern makes a great set of gears for our A's and T's. Bronze is quieter that the aluminum ones, I'm told. Want to build a nice Burtz with a set of Mc Eacherns gears. I may even want to go with and overhead like the Miller if my horse can run a few seconds faster, but poor devel he is also aging and I fear the doesn't bode well for running faster. May have to sell him and apply the 3 cents a pound I get to the project.
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Re: 29 Model A :replacing timing gear, aluminum or phenolic? How to determine oversiz
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09-09-2024, 08:47 PM | #8 |
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Re: 29 Model A :replacing timing gear, aluminum or phenolic? How to determine oversiz
If replacing the gear, I vote for an aluminum gear, that what I installed last year. Otherwise, you will be replacing the fiber gear again in a few years.
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09-09-2024, 10:42 PM | #9 |
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Re: 29 Model A :replacing timing gear, aluminum or phenolic? How to determine oversiz
Oversize or undersize timing gears are needed when an engine rebuilder locates the main bearings either too close or too far from the camshaft.
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09-09-2024, 11:18 PM | #10 |
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Re: 29 Model A :replacing timing gear, aluminum or phenolic? How to determine oversiz
I installed an aluminum timing gear and it is noisy compared to the original I replaced. Your choice.LRF
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09-10-2024, 06:53 AM | #11 |
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Re: 29 Model A :replacing timing gear, aluminum or phenolic? How to determine oversiz
My aluminum timing gear is very quiet, along with the rest of my car. I just turn off my hearing aids.
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09-10-2024, 10:09 AM | #12 |
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Re: 29 Model A :replacing timing gear, aluminum or phenolic? How to determine oversiz
His first name is Dan & you'd be hard pressed to locate a better matched set of timing gears !
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