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09-09-2021, 06:23 PM | #1 |
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red liquid fuel gauge?
Red liquid for fuel gauge re '32, '33, '34, '35. Facts, please; no scuttlebutt!
Thank you. harmful/safe? Well-known documented supplier? Recent safe alternative? Thank you. Last edited by highbeams; 09-09-2021 at 06:26 PM. Reason: forgot item. |
09-09-2021, 07:45 PM | #2 |
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I understand that it is a strong acid base liquid with a heavy specific gravity rating. Newc
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Re: red liquid fuel gauge?
Tetra-bromo-ethane, specific gravity 2.95, dyed red with durant scarlet dye is the original liquid. Very corrosive, and I think carcinogenic. No alternative; that specific gravity is crucial for accuracy of the gauge
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Re: red liquid fuel gauge?
How about same question for the red temperature gauge fluid?
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Dunno...the temp units are sealed; weren't meant to be serviced, unlike the hydrostatic fuel gauges, where service bulletins covered the R&M of them
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Good luck, maybe someone down there has some. |
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Here is on the left original 32-35 Ford gas gauge fluid that I still have. Years ago I found a NOS bottle just like "deuce roadster" has. On the right is what the vendors sold in the air line kit (which fades over time).
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On the left original 32-35 Ford gas gauge fluid. |
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I forget the name BUT There was a company that supplied Duesenburg parts that sold the red gauge liquid and it doesn't fade. It wasn't cheap either.....after shipping it was close to $45 for a small bottle like posted above in Sheldon's post. I will look and see IF i can find the receipt. Classic & Exotic "Maybe"????
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09-10-2021, 07:35 AM | #10 |
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I found a guy on an Auburn site that has fluid that he says doesn't fade. It's $15 per vial and $8 shipping.
Curt Schulze, call him on 715-262-3183, he is in Prescott WI Curt Schulze N 4864 1180 St Prescott, WI 54021 Last edited by glennpm; 09-10-2021 at 11:47 AM. |
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I bought the red fluid from Classic & Exotic. It faded after a couple of years and I don't expose my car to sunlight very often - keep it in a garage.
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hmmm. I think I'll cut a half-inch strip off of a red-in-color sheet of blank paper, roll it up and place it in the glass tube. . . . . . keep track of the trip odometer.
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Thank you,Jim!
Will do that! Pat |
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Thank you all again, so much.
Glennpm, i will contact mr. Schulze. Much appreciated! |
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Glad to help. Most previous sources have stopped selling the fluid.
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What is the reason others have stopped selling it? Corrosive to everything but the glass fuel gauge. I would get in contact, if possible, with current V8ers that use it. Thank you, Glenn - Pat |
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Here is the msds on tetra-bromo-ethane
https://www.cdhfinechemical.com/imag...9-27-6MSDS.pdf
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Apparently FoMoCo had a patent on their original. Obviously it was physically safe to use.
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I’ve bought from them several years ago but when I checked this year, I couldn’t find it on their site which was easily located when I bought it before.
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The original Ford red fluid has come up on Ebay now and again and it is the same fluid that is used in the Temperature gauge. I wonder if the gauge would still work if you fitted a little red ball.
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'I wonder if the gauge would still work if you fitted a little red ball'
in order for the liquid in the sightglass to show true level in gastank, it MUST have a sg of 2.95
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Good idea Brian. A small glass bead would work, not sure about plastics.
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Deuce Roadster: Would you please clarify your comment regarding the reasons as you factually acknowledge them. Thank you in advance. highbeams |
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Are you suggesting an exact diameter? Obviously; correct? Would you update your findings, please? Thank you in advance -highbeams |
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The ball wasn't my idea, I was simply responding to Ian's post #22
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Do you have a '33 glass fuel tube handy out of a car to measure the inside diameter? Thank you - highbeams |
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Do you know the inside diameter of the glass fuel gauge? thank you - highbeams |
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09-18-2021, 04:37 PM | #31 |
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"Do you know the inside diameter of the glass fuel gauge?"
I just measured the ID on an old broken gauge I have and then checked it with a drill bit. ID is 9/64" Glenn |
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I would use a bead of 1/8" OD.
This is just an example since I doubt the Coral would withstand the acid. https://www.michaels.com/bead-galler.../10120972.html Last edited by glennpm; 09-18-2021 at 06:37 PM. Reason: Make clear that I’m not suggesting that coral is appropriate |
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I was under the impression that the ball to be used, as opposed to the 'red'; re your comment "I doubt the coral would withstand the acid." Thank you, Sir. highbeams. *** Last edited by highbeams; 09-19-2021 at 02:03 PM. |
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Sincerely appreciated. So, hopefully, the hydrastatic pressure will coincide w/the fuel level in the tank and push the 9/64" glass ball to the accurate position. THAT WOULD BE SPLENDID! As opposed to diddling with the 'red'. Correct me if I am misunderstanding. I've been known to uh, misunderstand, particularly with a honeydo. https://thefractioncalculator.com/ 2:04 PM Pat Malone Last edited by highbeams; 09-19-2021 at 04:17 PM. |
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What's the specific gravity of glass? I hope it's less than 2.95 or else it will sink to the bottom of the gauge.
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Yes, good question and I checked it the other day.
Glass beads 2.5 SG https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/s...als-d_293.html |
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It would be easy to test the ball just put it into some of that fluid in a phial and see if it sinks.
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The glass-ball idea is the best. re: https://www.jansjewels.com/3.5mm-No-...ds_p_3583.html glass tube i.d. is 9/64" or 3.571 mm. |
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The glass-ball idea is the best. re: https://www.jansjewels.com/3.5mm-No-...ds_p_3583.html glass tube i.d. is 9/64" or 3.571 mm. |
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Explain how a glass ball will work without a seal (at end of tube)or you put the fluid in and the glass ball floats on top?
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If a wooden stick was good enough for Henry, why, it oughtta be good enough for everybody else!
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Yes, re. "you put the fluid in and the glass ball floats on top .."
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