Go Back   The Ford Barn > General Discussion > Model A (1928-31)

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-09-2020, 07:43 PM   #1
Ranchero50
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Hagerstown MD
Posts: 224
Question Custom building vintage style wiring

Hey guys, looking for sources of vintage cloth covered wiring and especially the large rubber heat shrink covers for the eye terminals for my speedster.

I'm going to use a '49ish dash mounted ignition switch and need to do some custom wiring for that and the same era gauge lamps.

Photo so you know what I'm starting with.



Thanks in advance.

Jamie
__________________
Building a '29 Speedster, the hard way...
Ranchero50 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2020, 07:57 PM   #2
dbaldwi3
Member
 
dbaldwi3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Gulf coast of florida
Posts: 66
Default Re: Custom building vintage style wiring

E-bay has been my source for the proper cloth wire sold by the foot also the cloth sheathing with the tar coating also sold by the foot. Good luck with the speedster I’m just getting started on mine!
dbaldwi3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
Old 08-09-2020, 08:01 PM   #3
CarlG
Senior Member
 
CarlG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Anchorage, Alaska
Posts: 9,109
Default Re: Custom building vintage style wiring

Try Sacramento Vintage Ford
__________________
Alaskan A's
Antique Auto Mushers of Alaska
Model A Ford Club of America
Model A Restorers Club
Antique Automobile Club of America
Mullins Owner's Club
CarlG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2020, 08:15 PM   #4
GPierce
Senior Member
 
GPierce's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Germantown,TN
Posts: 513
Default Re: Custom building vintage style wiring

The Model A suppliers, Brattons, Snyder’s has it by the foot; $.85
GPierce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2020, 09:24 PM   #5
Jack Shaft
BANNED
 
Join Date: Dec 2019
Posts: 1,196
Default Re: Custom building vintage style wiring



cloth loom with modern wiring,shrink connectors ..
Jack Shaft is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2020, 09:48 PM   #6
Aok
Senior Member
 
Aok's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Tx
Posts: 502
Default Re: Custom building vintage style wiring

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
When I use to work on 40's-50's mopars I had used rhode island wiring.
http://www.riwire.com
Aok is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2020, 12:03 AM   #7
1930-Pickup
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: southern California
Posts: 725
Default Re: Custom building vintage style wiring

Vintage car electrical supplies and harnesses:
https://www.store.ynzyesterdaysparts.com/

Unique vintage car stuff and electrical
https://restorationstuff.com/
1930-Pickup is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2020, 04:01 PM   #8
Ranchero50
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Hagerstown MD
Posts: 224
Default Re: Custom building vintage style wiring

Thanks for the ideas. I'm actually trying to find the heavy walled insulation that goes around the wire terminal. I assume that it's some type of heat shrink but it has a 1/8" thick wall. Probably should have calle Jeff at Bratton's today but I've been crazy busy at work.
__________________
Building a '29 Speedster, the hard way...
Ranchero50 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2020, 04:11 PM   #9
1930-Pickup
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: southern California
Posts: 725
Default Re: Custom building vintage style wiring

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ranchero50 View Post
Thanks for the ideas. I'm actually trying to find the heavy walled insulation that goes around the wire terminal. I assume that it's some type of heat shrink but it has a 1/8" thick wall. Probably should have calle Jeff at Bratton's today but I've been crazy busy at work.
Maybe you're thinking of asphalt loom?
They use it on Model A and AA commercial headlight conduits (instead of stainless flex loom like with the cars).
Comes in all sizes though...
1930-Pickup is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2020, 04:21 PM   #10
Ranchero50
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Hagerstown MD
Posts: 224
Default Re: Custom building vintage style wiring

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1930-Pickup View Post
Maybe you're thinking of asphalt loom?
They use it on Model A and AA commercial headlight conduits (instead of stainless flex loom like with the cars).
Comes in all sizes though...
Nah, not the loom. The actual insulation on the terminals like the left side terminals on this dash wiring.

https://www.brattons.com/dash-wire.html

You wouldn't think that it would be this difficult
__________________
Building a '29 Speedster, the hard way...
Ranchero50 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2020, 04:25 PM   #11
1930-Pickup
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: southern California
Posts: 725
Default Re: Custom building vintage style wiring

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ranchero50 View Post
Nah, not the loom. The actual insulation on the terminals like the left side terminals on this dash wiring.

https://www.brattons.com/dash-wire.html

You wouldn't think that it would be this difficult
I believe that's heat shrink tubing, but I've never seen it 1/8" thick wall though.
1930-Pickup is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2020, 04:46 PM   #12
GPierce
Senior Member
 
GPierce's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Germantown,TN
Posts: 513
Default Re: Custom building vintage style wiring

Harbor Freight has a heavy wall heat shrink with an internal glue that melts and seals the joint. Marine heat shrink tubing. I use it on my airplane and Model A connections.
https://www.harborfreight.com/search...hrink%20tubing

It has 42 pieces and 6 different sizes in the box.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg B10A78B7-B88A-4CC8-BBEC-33C0102664EA.jpg (42.8 KB, 19 views)
GPierce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2020, 05:18 PM   #13
Ranchero50
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Hagerstown MD
Posts: 224
Default Re: Custom building vintage style wiring

Quote:
Originally Posted by GPierce View Post
Harbor Freight has a heavy wall heat shrink with an internal glue that melts and seals the joint. Marine heat shrink tubing. I use it on my airplane and Model A connections.
https://www.harborfreight.com/search...hrink%20tubing

It has 42 pieces and 6 different sizes in the box.
I don't think that stuff is thick enough. American autowire has it as part of this ignition switch kit.

https://www.americanautowire.com/sho...ncludes-switch
__________________
Building a '29 Speedster, the hard way...
Ranchero50 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2020, 06:11 PM   #14
OLDMANKOHOUT
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Rancho Cordova, Ca.
Posts: 56
Default Re: Custom building vintage style wiring

Sacramento Vintage uses a rubber sleeve that is applied with a 3-prong tool to expand. They can be applied without a tool, just takes longer.

https://www.vintageford.com/sect_veh...=Wiring%20Shop
Attached Images
File Type: jpg tube1.jpg (60.1 KB, 38 views)
File Type: jpg vintage2.jpg (66.3 KB, 38 views)
OLDMANKOHOUT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2020, 08:13 PM   #15
Ranchero50
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Hagerstown MD
Posts: 224
Default Re: Custom building vintage style wiring

OK, that's what I'm after. Rubber sleeve makes me think it's just repurposed tubing...

Ironic that I can't find the pics that you posted on their site. PITA but thanks for the info.
__________________
Building a '29 Speedster, the hard way...
Ranchero50 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2020, 12:25 PM   #16
Purdy Swoft
Senior Member
 
Purdy Swoft's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Alabama
Posts: 8,099
Default Re: Custom building vintage style wiring

I use to make my own wiring harnesses . Now that color coded wiring harnesses are offered at a very reasonable price by some of the vendors , I use them . I always used the available headlamp wiring harnesses because I would rather pay the price than make the harness myself .
Purdy Swoft is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2020, 02:12 PM   #17
Jack Shaft
BANNED
 
Join Date: Dec 2019
Posts: 1,196
Default Re: Custom building vintage style wiring

I custom made my harness,used weatherpack connectors in the headlight harness to make removal a snap..heat shrink connectors in wet areas,fuse protected relay operated circuits to reduce switch loads..LED lighting leaves a lot of ampacity, even at night..
Jack Shaft is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2020, 07:31 PM   #18
Tinbasher
Senior Member
 
Tinbasher's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Innisfil, Ontario Canada
Posts: 1,173
Default Re: Custom building vintage style wiring

Restoration Supply Co. in California. JP
Tinbasher is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2020, 05:17 PM   #19
Ranchero50
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Hagerstown MD
Posts: 224
Default Re: Custom building vintage style wiring

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Shaft View Post
I custom made my harness,used weatherpack connectors in the headlight harness to make removal a snap..heat shrink connectors in wet areas,fuse protected relay operated circuits to reduce switch loads..LED lighting leaves a lot of ampacity, even at night..
I do similar on the modern stuff. This I want to look vintage, '50's at the latest.

Thanks,
Jamie
__________________
Building a '29 Speedster, the hard way...
Ranchero50 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2020, 05:40 PM   #20
Jack Shaft
BANNED
 
Join Date: Dec 2019
Posts: 1,196
Default Re: Custom building vintage style wiring

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ranchero50 View Post
I do similar on the modern stuff. This I want to look vintage, '50's at the latest.

Thanks,
Jamie
good luck
Jack Shaft is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:25 AM.