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Old 05-08-2021, 10:39 AM   #1
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Default Cluster gear 022A-7113A vs 21C-7113

Does anyone by chance have a pic of the difference between these two gears. The 21C- 7113 apperently has a1/4 band between the "Driver and Intermediate gear" I think that's what I have but still not sure if that's what I've. It's in a 41 3 on the column transmission
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Old 05-08-2021, 12:12 PM   #2
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Default Re: Cluster gear 022A-7113A vs 21C-7113

Veeder, This may help. Contact Mr. Van Pelt to clarify.

http://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/f...gear-types.htm
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Default Re: Cluster gear 022A-7113A vs 21C-7113

The band is very pronounced it is part of the gear metal it has no other purpose except identification. Post a photo of your gear if still unsure.
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Old 05-08-2021, 01:13 PM   #4
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Default Re: Cluster gear 022A-7113A vs 21C-7113

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You might want to carefully compare these two info-filled tid-bits of transmission rhetoric, complements of Mac VanPelt. DD


022A-7113A

Cluster Gear 29-24-18-14 helical teeth. Use with 022A7017, 81A7061, 01A7100, 81A7102, 81A7124, 68-7141 or 022A7017, 81A7061, 01A7100, 81A7102, 01A7124, 68-7141 or 022A7017, 81A7061, 01A7100, 81A7102, 51A7124, 68-7141 or 022A7017, 21C7061A, 01A7100, 81A7102, 01A7124, 68-7141 or 022A7017, 21C7061A, 01A7100, 81A7102, 51A7124, 68-7141 - replaced by 022A7113B, 8M7128A & 8M7129A
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21C-7113

Cluster Gear 29-24-18-14 helical teeth. ¼" band around gear between driver and intermediate gears. Use with 022A7017, 81A7061, 21C7100, 81A7102, 81A7124, 68-7141 or 022A7017, 81A7061, 21C7100, 81A7102, 01A7124, 68-7141 or 022A7017, 81A7061, 21C7100, 81A7102, 51A7124 or 022A7017, 21C7061A, 21C7100, 81A7102, 01A7124, 68-7141 or 022A7017, 21C7061A, 21C7100, 81A7102, 51A7124, 68-7141 - replaced by 8M7113, 8M7128A, 8M7129A & 81A7017
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The 21C cluster was a short lived experiment by Ford to try out a different gear as far as metallurgy and heat treating processes. I have the factory print somewhere. I don’t know if the experiment failed to produce the results they wanted, or perhaps some of the details made it into general production of the subsequent cluster gears. In any case, the part number was not carried forward after the war, except where it showed up in the gear charts for application purposes.
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Old 05-08-2021, 06:45 PM   #6
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I've been using Mac Van belt data extensively it has been incredibly help! So Mr Vanbelt I thank u!!!!
I'm having some trouble getting the file size of pics down (I embarrassed I even saying this) I will fiqure it out and get the pic posted.
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I've been using Mac Van belt data extensively it has been incredibly help! So Mr Vanbelt I thank u!!!!
I'm having some trouble getting the file size of pics down (I embarrassed I even saying this) I will fiqure it out and get the pic posted.
MANY times, if you'll e-mail pictures to yourself, they re-size appropriately to post on the 'Barn....try it! DD
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Old 05-09-2021, 08:33 AM   #8
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Pic of cluster gear and the sliding get (rev to first)
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Old 05-09-2021, 08:53 AM   #9
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Old 05-09-2021, 09:16 AM   #10
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I figure that for 1942, they decided to make a new cluster for Commercial models with the new open drive line. It likely didn't take long to figure that they already had that with the set up made for the V8-60 that was being discontinued. A person also has to put it into a time perspective. Ford was already gearing up for full wartime production in 1942. They may have worried that the 022A part may not hold up well for heavier Commercial applications.

A person can use the resize controls built into the MS Paint program. A person just has to select the "keep aspect ratio" control during that process so the photo doesn't get shrunk down to nothing. That way is just reduces the pixel count but not the size.

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