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KJ714 · 01-19-2024, 12:46 AM

I swear I saw a thread about getting a stock trans off of a 21 stud block when the trans is not coming off. Looks like I got all the bolts out of the bellhousing, I took the motor and trans out of the car. It moves a little bit around the flange area. I put a short pipe on the clutch actuator and can rock it back and forth and the trans flange and bellhousing float a little. Am I missing something? Starter is out. Seems like it oughta go.

19Fordy · 01-19-2024, 09:03 AM

Can you post photos?

Juergen · 01-19-2024, 09:44 AM

If you have a pilot bearing instead of a bushing, the input shaft could be frozen on the bearing. Get two longer bolts (or studs) to support the trans but allow the trans to move back out. See if you can wedge some large screw drivers between the mating surface to help move the trans back.

richard crow · 01-19-2024, 10:22 AM

sounds like the clutch disk is frozen to the fly wheel.ore the trans shaft or pilot bearing remove the oil pan then loosen the pressure plate bolts. if still stuck drive a wedge between the disk & flywheel

Reds34 · 01-20-2024, 10:46 AM

I had the pleasure of removing a 4 speed from a 59ab where the clutch disc was stuck to the flywheel. I had to stick my hand through the inspection cover and remove the bolts that held the front bearing retainer to the transmission case. I was then able to separate the 2 pieces.

Red

Mart · 01-20-2024, 01:19 PM

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After triple checking that all the bolts are out, See if you can look through the inspection cover and get sight of the clutch disc on the input shaft. If it looks tight on there it might be possible to get a drift in there and knock the disk forward and get the trans off. I had to do this once getting a V8-60 box off.

KJ714 · 01-21-2024, 02:53 AM

Okay, great advice, couldn’t get back to it today but I’ll be messing around with it tomorrow. Thanks all!

KJ714 · 01-31-2024, 05:47 PM

Got it, pilot bearing was stuck, had to unbolt clutch basket through inspection plate and then it came apart easy. That bearing is really, really stuck on the end of that input shaft.
The bearing is kinda bad so maybe heat just stuck it on there really good.

01-19-2024, 12:46 AM	#1
KJ714 Member Join Date: Jul 2022 Posts: 46	Remove Trans from 21 stud 36 flattie I swear I saw a thread about getting a stock trans off of a 21 stud block when the trans is not coming off. Looks like I got all the bolts out of the bellhousing, I took the motor and trans out of the car. It moves a little bit around the flange area. I put a short pipe on the clutch actuator and can rock it back and forth and the trans flange and bellhousing float a little. Am I missing something? Starter is out. Seems like it oughta go.

01-19-2024, 09:03 AM	#2
19Fordy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Coral Springs FL Posts: 10,950	Re: Remove Trans from 21 stud 36 flattie Can you post photos?

01-19-2024, 09:44 AM	#3
Juergen Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 503	Re: Remove Trans from 21 stud 36 flattie If you have a pilot bearing instead of a bushing, the input shaft could be frozen on the bearing. Get two longer bolts (or studs) to support the trans but allow the trans to move back out. See if you can wedge some large screw drivers between the mating surface to help move the trans back.

01-19-2024, 10:22 AM	#4
richard crow Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,770	Re: Remove Trans from 21 stud 36 flattie sounds like the clutch disk is frozen to the fly wheel.ore the trans shaft or pilot bearing remove the oil pan then loosen the pressure plate bolts. if still stuck drive a wedge between the disk & flywheel Last edited by richard crow; 01-19-2024 at 10:27 AM.

01-20-2024, 10:46 AM	#5
Reds34 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Eastern, CT Posts: 527	Re: Remove Trans from 21 stud 36 flattie I had the pleasure of removing a 4 speed from a 59ab where the clutch disc was stuck to the flywheel. I had to stick my hand through the inspection cover and remove the bolts that held the front bearing retainer to the transmission case. I was then able to separate the 2 pieces. Red

01-20-2024, 01:19 PM	#6
Mart Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Solihull, England. Posts: 8,755	Re: Remove Trans from 21 stud 36 flattie Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) After triple checking that all the bolts are out, See if you can look through the inspection cover and get sight of the clutch disc on the input shaft. If it looks tight on there it might be possible to get a drift in there and knock the disk forward and get the trans off. I had to do this once getting a V8-60 box off.

01-21-2024, 02:53 AM	#7
KJ714 Member Join Date: Jul 2022 Posts: 46	Re: Remove Trans from 21 stud 36 flattie Okay, great advice, couldn’t get back to it today but I’ll be messing around with it tomorrow. Thanks all!

01-31-2024, 05:47 PM	#8
KJ714 Member Join Date: Jul 2022 Posts: 46	Re: Remove Trans from 21 stud 36 flattie Got it, pilot bearing was stuck, had to unbolt clutch basket through inspection plate and then it came apart easy. That bearing is really, really stuck on the end of that input shaft. The bearing is kinda bad so maybe heat just stuck it on there really good.