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collinrestores · 11-14-2022, 10:39 AM

It is time for me to pull the transmission in my 36 fordor and attempt a clutch replacement.

I'm looking for recommendations for clutch parts to buy... I'm seeing different diameters and sizes available out there and I'm not sure which to get. How would I tell without looking at it? Don't want to have to disassemble and then order and wait a week, but I will if I have to.

As far as disassembly goes, I am under the impression it should be possible without pulling the engine by dropping the rear end, sliding it back, removing the transmission linkages and mounting bolts, pulling transmission. Someone correct me if I am wrong about this or if there are pitfalls I should look out for.

KiWinUS · 11-14-2022, 10:44 AM

Michael Driskell 3rd Gen auto can probably supply correct parts. Prestige rather pull the engine to replace clutch. If your flywheel needs resurfaced you have to remove oil pan. That’s a chore with engine in car.

whizzernick · 11-14-2022, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by kiwinus

michael driskell 3rd gen auto can probably supply correct parts. Prestige rather pull the engine to replace clutch. If your flywheel needs resurfaced you have to remove oil pan. That’s a chore with engine in car.

i need to do same on a 1934 . I do need to change flywheel.
Need advice . ??????

KiWinUS · 11-14-2022, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by whizzernick

i need to do same on a 1934 . I do need to change flywheel.
Need advice . ??????

Mate I have not done a clutch on a 34 but it is so similar to a 36 I would pull engine as the oil pan has to come off to get flywheel off.

blucar · 11-14-2022, 01:22 PM

Unfortunately with the age of a '36 Ford and the variations in what size, etc., the clutch is, your best move would be to pull the engine.
On a brighter note, pulling the engine gives you the opportunity to freshen up many items in the engine compartment while you are doing the clutch..
Another item to consider, the pilot bearing in the end of the crankshaft. It is only accessible with the flywheel off of the engine. Can't remember if the Ford flat-heads have a pilot bearing, most engines have a bronze bushing, pilot bearing.

Jeff/Illinois · 11-14-2022, 01:29 PM

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KiWinUS · 11-14-2022, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by blucar

Unfortunately with the age of a '36 Ford and the variations in what size, etc., the clutch is, your best move would be to pull the engine.
On a brighter note, pulling the engine gives you the opportunity to freshen up many items in the engine compartment while you are doing the clutch..
Another item to consider, the pilot bearing in the end of the crankshaft. It is only accessible with the flywheel off of the engine. Can't remember if the Ford flat-heads have a pilot bearing, most engines have a bronze bushing, pilot bearing.

Flathead Pilot bearing or bushing(can use either) is in the flywheel not crankshaft. Cheers

35fordtn · 11-15-2022, 12:22 PM

If its a mechanical brake car I much prefer to unhook the rear and roll it back 12". I did a clutch on a 36 Sedan Delivery a month ago and took me only about 45 minutes to get the rear out. But... If you have to pull the flywheel, I'd pull the engine

blucar · 11-15-2022, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by KiWinUS

Flathead Pilot bearing or bushing(can use either) is in the flywheel not crankshaft. Cheers

I think I hedged my comment about pilot bushings/bearing a bit on flathead Ford engines. been a long time since I have worked on EFV8.

FlatheadTed · 11-15-2022, 01:50 PM

The last 1946 we did we rolled the rear back on the drums until the rubber brake line was tight this created enough gap to lift out the box ,make sure the drive shaft rear collar and the front roller bearing is in good shape it you want a extra smooth clutch ,the front of the shaft can whip up and down as you let out the clutch,Ford fly wheel cast iron is good quality cannot remember the last time I changed one , a 1934 36 swap should work as outlined ,I use the rear bell bolted at the top to get your hand through for lifting

collinrestores · 03-13-2023, 01:56 PM

A little update on this: did a lot of research and determined this engine has a later 8BA flywheel and 1949-50 Mercury clutch in it. Unknown why. I picked up the correct flywheel and clutch from Bert's in Englewood CO.

I think I'm going to want to pull the engine and do a lot of work on this car while it's out that I can't do with the limited space I have right now. The next stage of this project will probably have to wait until I move somewhere with more space.

11-14-2022, 10:39 AM	#1
collinrestores Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2022 Posts: 6	Replacing clutch in 1936 Ford It is time for me to pull the transmission in my 36 fordor and attempt a clutch replacement. I'm looking for recommendations for clutch parts to buy... I'm seeing different diameters and sizes available out there and I'm not sure which to get. How would I tell without looking at it? Don't want to have to disassemble and then order and wait a week, but I will if I have to. As far as disassembly goes, I am under the impression it should be possible without pulling the engine by dropping the rear end, sliding it back, removing the transmission linkages and mounting bolts, pulling transmission. Someone correct me if I am wrong about this or if there are pitfalls I should look out for.

11-14-2022, 10:44 AM	#2
KiWinUS Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Charlotte NC KiWi-L100 available here Posts: 2,960	Re: Replacing clutch in 1936 Ford Michael Driskell 3rd Gen auto can probably supply correct parts. Prestige rather pull the engine to replace clutch. If your flywheel needs resurfaced you have to remove oil pan. That’s a chore with engine in car.

11-14-2022, 01:22 PM	#5
blucar Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Ventura, CA Posts: 2,464	Re: Replacing clutch in 1936 Ford Unfortunately with the age of a '36 Ford and the variations in what size, etc., the clutch is, your best move would be to pull the engine. On a brighter note, pulling the engine gives you the opportunity to freshen up many items in the engine compartment while you are doing the clutch.. Another item to consider, the pilot bearing in the end of the crankshaft. It is only accessible with the flywheel off of the engine. Can't remember if the Ford flat-heads have a pilot bearing, most engines have a bronze bushing, pilot bearing. __________________ Bill.... 36 5 win cpe

11-14-2022, 01:29 PM	#6
Jeff/Illinois Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,789	Re: Replacing clutch in 1936 Ford Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Ft. Wayne Clutch https://fortwayneclutch.com/ We just had them rebuild an odd ball clutch assy. in our '36 Ford that a fellow was working on for us. Excellent work fast turn around, was very happy with them!! Last edited by Jeff/Illinois; 11-14-2022 at 05:40 PM.

11-15-2022, 12:22 PM	#8
35fordtn Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: McMinnville, TN Posts: 2,327	Re: Replacing clutch in 1936 Ford If its a mechanical brake car I much prefer to unhook the rear and roll it back 12". I did a clutch on a 36 Sedan Delivery a month ago and took me only about 45 minutes to get the rear out. But... If you have to pull the flywheel, I'd pull the engine

11-15-2022, 01:50 PM	#10
FlatheadTed Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Auckland Posts: 4,705	Re: Replacing clutch in 1936 Ford The last 1946 we did we rolled the rear back on the drums until the rubber brake line was tight this created enough gap to lift out the box ,make sure the drive shaft rear collar and the front roller bearing is in good shape it you want a extra smooth clutch ,the front of the shaft can whip up and down as you let out the clutch,Ford fly wheel cast iron is good quality cannot remember the last time I changed one , a 1934 36 swap should work as outlined ,I use the rear bell bolted at the top to get your hand through for lifting __________________ http://www.flatheadted.com Flathead Ted brake Floaters , Last edited by FlatheadTed; 11-15-2022 at 02:27 PM.

03-13-2023, 01:56 PM	#11
collinrestores Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2022 Posts: 6	Re: Replacing clutch in 1936 Ford A little update on this: did a lot of research and determined this engine has a later 8BA flywheel and 1949-50 Mercury clutch in it. Unknown why. I picked up the correct flywheel and clutch from Bert's in Englewood CO. I think I'm going to want to pull the engine and do a lot of work on this car while it's out that I can't do with the limited space I have right now. The next stage of this project will probably have to wait until I move somewhere with more space.