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Old 12-04-2022, 07:27 PM   #1
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Default Simple driving light diagram for Model A

Anyone have a simple wiring diagram for installing driving/fog lights on a Model A? I'm still 6v +ground. I'm also interested in seeing pics of where you located your lights and where you mounted your switch, fuse, etc.
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Old 12-04-2022, 10:13 PM   #2
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What are you going to use for driving/fog lights?
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Old 12-05-2022, 09:41 AM   #3
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Ther are brackets for them to fit between bumper bars. Dont know if you can purchase them separately
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Old 12-05-2022, 10:12 AM   #4
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Gary WA,
I have a pair of antique Sears Allstate 6 volt fog lamps and I mounted them on the front bumper brackets. I wired up similar lights on another Model A, but just interested to see what others have done. I think I know where I want to mount the switch without having to drill any new holes, but just interested in what others have done.
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Old 12-05-2022, 12:10 PM   #5
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If you are wanting something that is bright for driving in bad weather, then I might suggest you look at the new focused LED headlights. They put out a lot of light, but they are bright white light. No yellow to it.
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Old 12-05-2022, 12:19 PM   #6
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Actually, my headlights are surprisingly bright for a 6 volt system, so no problem there. I just wanted to add some extra lighting to increase my visibility to other drivers and I like the look of the extra lights to add character and beauty to an otherwise plain front end.
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Connect the "feed", w/an inline fuse, to the side of the terminal block that has the yellow w/black wires on it.
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Old 12-05-2022, 02:20 PM   #8
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katy,
Good idea on the connection to the terminal block post. Keeps the wire going to the switch short and easy to hide.
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Old 12-05-2022, 02:24 PM   #9
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Here's mine: (PDF shows the original Unity wiring diagram)
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Old 12-05-2022, 02:28 PM   #10
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CarlG,
Love the look of your car with the fog lights on. Gives it a distinctive look as its coming at you. I think it helps the car stand out more at night to oncoming traffic. The way drivers are so distracted these days, I want all the help I can get.
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Old 12-05-2022, 02:30 PM   #11
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Forgot to ask...does anyone use a relay in their wiring circuit? If so, which one?
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Old 12-06-2022, 05:34 AM   #12
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I don't use a relay, but these would work:

https://www.speedwaymotors.com/6-Vol...lay,66474.html

https://www.autohausaz.com/pn/0332204001
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Old 12-06-2022, 05:51 AM   #13
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I custom wired mine, used relays on all main circuits. The reason I did was to reduce switch load, instead of a toggle switching 10 amps it only switches milliamp, the relay sees the acutual load. Modern automotive systems use fuse protected relays, they can save a harness, and a car.. from burning.
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Old 12-06-2022, 09:54 AM   #14
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jack backer,
I agree with you about using relays. Cheap insurance to avoid a fire and the electricals work better too.
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Since all my lighting is LED, didn't feel it necessary to complicate things with relays.
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Old 12-06-2022, 06:47 PM   #16
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CarlG,
I had thought about using LED's but my stock 6 volt system works so well I hated to tamper with it. All of the lights are stock incandescent and they are so bright many people thought I had switched over to 12 volt. I guess I still like the warmth and glow of the original lights on an old car...as long as they work well!
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The stock model A with the headlamps on pretty much uses all that the generator will put out with the 3rd brush set to 12-amps. Adding fog lamps will likely tax the system. A person should switch to LED if they drive at night a lot and especially if more electrical lighting accessories are added.
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Old 12-06-2022, 09:17 PM   #18
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rotorwrench,
I was wondering whether the generator would be up to the task with the 3rd brush adjusted accordingly for auxiliary lighting, so your comments are what I was looking for. I've never run fog or driving lights on a 6 volt system, so it's one of those "you don't know what you don't know" things. Appreciate the tip.
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Old 12-07-2022, 03:28 PM   #19
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They were more common on post war cars and especially in the late 40s & early 50s. Dual spots were a custom builders favorite in that time frame too but generators had more than twice the output capabilities of the old 3-brush types.
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Old 12-07-2022, 08:15 PM   #20
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Any harm in upping the charging output to somewhere around 20 amps while driving at night and using the driving lights or is that a death sentence for the generator?
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