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12-12-2016, 01:28 PM | #1 |
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My "new" '27 Model T Sedan... what to do?
Hello everyone! I'm new to the forum and this is my first post. Here we go!
So I picked up a great project. I was on the prowl for a sedan body to build a rat rod out of, and I ended up stumbling across this: Now I'm very conflicted. I've done a few Google searches and it looks like this would bring around $13-14K in restored condition. It might not look like it from the picture, but this would be an easy resto. The entire car is there. The ONLY thing missing is the carburetor. The doors open and close smoothly, with no play in the handles, the windows roll up and down easily, the fenders have minor surface corrosion, but they aren't bent or dented at all, there's no bullet holes or rust holes, and when I flake the paint off there's clean steel underneath. One part of my brain is telling me that this is a perfect car to chop 8" out of the roof, drop in a V8, channel it, and have a sweet street rod. The other part of my brain is telling me that this is a 90 year old, all original car. I know if I restored it to original condition, I would not keep it. If I cut, chop, and channel it, I will keep it. There lies my dilemma. I'd love to get any input I can from some like minded guys/gals. I'm hoping to find them here. Thank you in advance for your replies.
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12-12-2016, 01:42 PM | #2 |
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Re: My "new" '27 Model T Sedan... what to do?
I think that any old Ford that's in decent condition and is a relatively complete car should be RESTORED. There are enough random parts out there, including reproductions, that someone could make any kind of hotrod they want. But the nice complete cars are getting too hard to find.
I like hotrods and I really appreciate the craftsmanship that goes into most of them, but solid original Model T's are just not a good candidate in my opinion. Lastly, If you'll just restore and flip it, maybe someone else would love to restore it. Most unrestored T's are so rough that it would be a really nice one for someone to do who enjoys the restoration process. And I'm guessing that your estimate of $13,000 to $14,000 might be a bit high for that car, unless you restore it very authentically. But it's your car and I wish you well whatever you choose. Thanks for asking. |
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12-12-2016, 02:21 PM | #3 |
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Re: My "new" '27 Model T Sedan... what to do?
Well I certainly appreciate your advice. I was basing the $13-14k off of a quick Google search. By no means were those any kind of definite numbers, it took me all of 20 seconds to come up with them. I was just trying to get an idea of what one well restored would be worth. Honestly I was surprised. I thought they'd be worth more.
Well I see both of your points of view. I understand that it might not be the most desirable platform for some to do a hot rod project with, and I also understand that there are purists out there who would enjoy doing an all-original restoration. I happen to NOT be one of those purists. That being said, once I get it cleaned up a little bit I might post some pictures up around CL, FB Groups, this forum perhaps, and see if anyone has a hot rod project that they would like to trade for an original T. I'll leave it up for a month or so, see if I get any inquiries, and go from there. Maybe it's just what someone's been looking for. If not, I'll put it under the knife and just sell the parts that I don't use (fenders, engine, frame, etc.). One way or another, I'm going to have my hot rod, but because this car is so complete, I have no qualms sitting on it for a while to see if anyone would want to trade something to save it from being hacked up.
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12-12-2016, 03:58 PM | #4 |
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Re: My "new" '27 Model T Sedan... what to do?
Me personally, would leave it or keep it stock. Whether restoring it or just making it road worthy and drivable. If you want a ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,dare I say,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,rat rod,,,,,,,,
Then look for just a bare body. Lately there have been a few 2 door sedan bodys on ebay. But its yours. Funny thing is that I am helping an old guy get his 2 door sedan running. He bought it sight unseen and it had engine problems. He got another short block so me and 2 other guys are trying to help him out. Just my 2 cents. |
12-12-2016, 04:52 PM | #5 |
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Well, like I said, I'm going to post it up for about a month after I get a chance to clean it and get some good pictures of it. If I find someone who wants to trade, then I'll go that route. If not, keep me in mind, because I might be getting rid of some parts you might be needing.
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12-15-2016, 10:13 PM | #6 |
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12-16-2016, 12:27 AM | #8 |
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Re: My "new" '27 Model T Sedan... what to do?
Finding such a complete, solid car is pretty rare. It looks as if you live in a part of the country that's blessed with cool back roads, too. I'd clean her up, get her running and drive her as is, you may find she's more fun that you thought. You can build a heavily chopped and channeled rat sedan out of just about anything -- it doesn't even need to be a Ford. Down the road you may want to have BOTH cars.
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12-16-2016, 01:25 AM | #9 |
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Listen to fellow Hot Rodder Dentonator. Get it running and stopping and turn it into cash for your dream rod. The body is the only think you would use in a rod anyway.
http://www.rufusranch.com/abodies2.html
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12-16-2016, 03:47 PM | #11 |
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Re: My "new" '27 Model T Sedan... what to do?
If you tidy the car up a bit & make it run you may, as stated before, find that a T is really a lot of fun & not much outlay. In any case running & together & no more would bring you the best return if you sell it.
If you want the rat rod body; here it is https://www.enginads.com/classifieds.../134979/cat/42 I know nothing about it or the seller but it has been listed for a while on a site that really does not get much exposure to car guys.
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Re: My "new" '27 Model T Sedan... what to do?
Yup, clean it up and drive it or trade for what you want.
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12-16-2016, 06:26 PM | #13 |
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Well I just got it home and in the shop. I took a lot of pictures. Now I guess I'll post it on some forums and see what turns up. The car really is cool. I couldn't figure out where the gearshift is though. Does anyone have a picture of where the gearshift should be? There's two levers on the steering column, like blinker arms, one on each side, but I have no idea how it's supposed to be. It's getting dark so I'm not gonna mess with it tonight, but I'll take a look tomorrow. The guy I bought it from called me and said he thinks he has a carburetor for it, so maybe I will get it running and see. Who knows?
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All corvette T.P.I. engine 700R4 corvette rear end this is a 65K+ car. Don't get me wrong I love that car. But the T is more fun.Like a hot rodder friend said after driving my T this is the most fun you can have and still stay in the speed limit. That said keep the T and look a little more for some thing you can cut up. |
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12-16-2016, 07:08 PM | #15 |
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It might grow on me. I already can't stop looking at it.
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12-16-2016, 07:10 PM | #16 |
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But how in the hell do you shift it? LOL, I have no clue what each lever does. The only thing I recognize is three pedals and a steering wheel.
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12-16-2016, 07:24 PM | #17 |
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The levers on the column are, left - the spark (sets timing) up to start - down to run. The right one is the accelerator up is idle.
The hand brake lever is rear wheel brake -on all the way back, half way up disengages the clutch & brake, all the way forward puts you in high gear. Right pedal is the foot brake - acts on a band in the transmission Center pedal is reverse - hand brake 1/2 way back -press the center pedal & you will back up. Left pedal is low & high gear. full down is low, 1/2 way up is neural, all the way up is high gear. What you have is a 2 speed automatic transmission only you do the work of all the servos & governors.
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How many gears are there? Does it have reverse? I know, before you say it, I need to get a book on it.
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12-16-2016, 07:29 PM | #19 |
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I feel like a kid on Christmas, like I found a diamond in the rough.
Edit: I kind of am still a kid. I'm 37 and immature, I'll own that
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12-16-2016, 10:43 PM | #20 |
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Don't fell bad friend when I got my first T like you I did not have a clue about any thing I just liked the looks of that little T. It just looked like fun. One of the Ts I done was a 1924
fordor like yours I planed on restoring it to sell. I thought it would be hot and stuffy was I wrong open the windshield and all the windows it was the coolest of any of Ts I done I drove it for five years and sold it after I wished I didn't. |
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Re: My "new" '27 Model T Sedan... what to do?
Lots of info on the Internet. I've never even ridden in a Model T, but I think I could after watching all the instructions on the web. I missed a chance to buy a centre door, but I guess I'll stick to my Pick-up.
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12-19-2016, 12:45 PM | #23 |
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Well everyone, you'll probably be happy to hear that I've found someone with a trade that suits my desires. My '27 will not be cut up, it's going to get new life. In trade I'm getting another '27 that someone has started but not finished.
I'm glad that I decided to search around for a different car before I went at mine with a sawzall. This way I'm happy, the new owner is happy, and a piece of history is going to remain intact. P.S. Does this mean I'll be shunned from this group if I don't have an original T? Are hot rodders still welcome?
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How much of your new one will be Model T?
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12-19-2016, 07:50 PM | #25 |
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The body and steering wheel.
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Not sure if this is the right place to post this, but I had to get in touch with the original owners daughter in order to obtain a title for my 27 T. Turns out that wasn't the only oldie that her father had. She still has two of them left, and they are more or less show cars. She would like to sell them. One is a 1923 Model T... um... buggy? The other is a 1930 Model A Sedan. Both are in amazing shape, and ready to run. Her and her sister had them appraised and they are looking for $12K for the T and $18K for the Model A. I posted this up on some of my Facebook Forums, but I told her I'd put it out there wherever I could. If this is the right place to post them, let me know. If not, let me know where I should post them. I have pictures of both.
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Better not hit a bump in that new one or your butt will be scraping! Have fun with both!
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12-20-2016, 07:08 PM | #29 |
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It's got air bags in the rear, and I'm going to redesign the front chassis for some ground clearance. I don't want it that low, but it's a better starting point than an original T.
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If it's a rod you're after a T, which is basically a wagon with a motor in, it might not make you happy. Their slow and quirky and the quirky bit seems to have attracted your attention. It's unlike any car you've messed with before. A class by itself for sure. As some have suggested perhaps turning it for a profit is a better idea. You found the truth early which is their not high dollar cars. You'll drop a lot more in a full resto than it's worth for sure. Personally a bit of cleaning and a quick flip sounds more up you're alley. It'll sell.
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As far as owning a T hot rod goes, this isn't my first, it's just my first sedan. I've owned a 23 T bucket that someone actually made from an original (I had no part in it, I just got it after the fact). It was a fun car, 327 with a 'glide, but I want something with a roof, something with a little more room, and something faster. This '27 sedan will give me my desired outcome.
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At the top of this page is a button for the Swap Meet use the proper forum for each car. Good Luck, and thanks for helping to put things where they belong.
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This was my first finished T many years ago. Had no idea how to drive it or maintain it but I joined a local club and learned a lot very quickly. Sadly it does not look like this anymore. Oh well, each to his own.
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This 27 is local to me.
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Look on YouTube for videos on 'how to drive a Model T"
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