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Old 10-31-2023, 08:01 PM   #1
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My friend, Bob, dropped the pan on his '29 tudor. He took out the dipper tray and cleaned everything. After putting it all back together the engine made a terrible clatter. We're wondering if the dipper tray was not correctly seated in the pan upon reassembly. The thought is that the bottom of the rods are knocking on the dipper tray. Anybody ever experienced this before?
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Sounds plausible. Rinse and repeat.
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This is a very common mistake after removing the dipper tray for cleaning and not re-installing it in the oil pan so that the raised "rails" fit into the slots along the pan's sides. I've done it and yes - it will result in an irritating metallic clatter, as you describe. You know the fix: drop the pan and reset the dipper tray. After replacing the dipper tray, turn the oil pan upside down and bounce it lightly against a hard surface to ensure that the tray is properly in place. If you do this too forcefully, the dipper tray will come out. You just need enough shock to the pan to make sure the dipper tray won't come loose.
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This is a very common mistake after removing the dipper tray for cleaning and not re-installing it in the oil pan so that the raised "rails" fit into the slots along the pan's sides. I've done it and yes - it will result in an irritating metallic clatter, as you describe. You know the fix: drop the pan and reset the dipper tray. After replacing the dipper tray, turn the oil pan upside down and bounce it lightly against a hard surface to ensure that the tray is properly in place. If you do this too forcefully, the dipper tray will come out. You just need enough shock to the pan to make sure the dipper tray won't come loose.
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My friend, Bob, dropped the pan on his '29 tudor. He took out the dipper tray and cleaned everything. After putting it all back together the engine made a terrible clatter. We're wondering if the dipper tray was not correctly seated in the pan upon reassembly. The thought is that the bottom of the rods are knocking on the dipper tray. Anybody ever experienced this before?
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Old 11-04-2023, 07:30 AM   #8
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Gary, Bob is sort of laid up at the moment. I don't know when we will get to it, but all the advice we've been given here at the Barn has been well received. We're pretty sure it's the loose dipper tray. We'll keep you all posted when we get it fixed. Thanks for all the responses.
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