Vinegar in Radiator

[Randy in ca]

Originally Posted by ronn

but Tim, the product is blue.............!

Maybe in your house, but not always!!

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[ronn]

sorry Randy- Im color blind.............


LOL!

[Terry, NJ]

[QUOTE=ronn;2183200]Dawn does foam, but not in a crazy manner. it is an anti colloidal.
created by a local MIT graduate, for I believe Proctor and Gamble.

original intention was to degrease engines...... the guy is a motor head[/QUOTE

Sort of like the guy who saw the mounds of orange peels setting around the orange juice plant in Florida and asked what they do with them. He chemically took them apart and created one of the best degreasers known. Maybe it's the same guy! Anyway, What's an "Anti-colloidal" anyway? I only know the word "Colloidal" from colloidal silver. I was given to believe that it meant Molecule sized silver particulates created off a silver anode by electrolysis. Anti-colloidal sounds like an adman's brainfart. Correct me if i'm wrong please!
Terry

[ronn]

I am not a chemist Terry-some on here most likely are.

in colloidal, one ingredient is suspended in another

with dawn, it attaches to grease, therefore infiltrating the culprit. that is my understanding anyway.

the same guy who created dawn also created febreze.....

[katy]

Originally Posted by Terry, NJ

Sort of like the guy who saw the mounds of orange peels setting around the orange juice plant in Florida and asked what they do with them.

Reminds me of the guy, during WW II, that saw the mounds of strawberry seeds that were being sh*t-canned at a strawberry processing facility. He offered to haul them away for free, then made artificial strawberry jam using (IIRC) the seeds, turnips, sugar and colouring.

[Robbie Horn]

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Has anyone tried using powder Cascade dishwasher detergent? I haven't needed it in a Model A but I have used it on many other vehicles & it really cleans out the cooling system.

[katy]

I've heard of "Cascade", non-foaming, being used to clean the cooling ststems of diesels what had an oil cooler leak, oil into the cooling system.

[Will N]

Originally Posted by Bob Bidonde

Vinegar is an acid and the radiator is brass with lots of tin solder. How long does it take for vinegar to corrode these metals?

Vinegar will melt brass if left in contact long enough. I've used it to soak carburetor parts in order to remove the brass passage plugs. In a few days, the brass plugs were completely gone.

[ronn]

Will, you must have used some strong vinegar!

4% will never take plugs out in 4 days, let alone a month.

[noboD]

Once an environmentally safe products melts the grease and oil it is no longer environmentally friendly.

[Will N]

Originally Posted by ronn

Will, you must have used some strong vinegar!

4% will never take plugs out in 4 days, let alone a month.

Duh! Senior moment. It's not vinegar that melts brass, it is ammonia! I have used ammonia to dissolve the brass plugs in a carb so I could clean out the passages, and it works in a few days.

[CT Jack]

Our 3rd generation old radiator repair shop uses Mr. Clean and some hot water to clean radiators. Dump your coollant, make a solution of Mr. Clean, pour it in, and leave it in for a few days while driving around. Then drain it and add antifreeze mixture with distilled water.
BTW vinegar is acetic acid which is nowhere as caustic as hydrochloric acid. Exposing copper/brass alloys to vinegar will remove small amounts of oxidation but not cause large amounts of corrosion to occur.