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Talkwrench · 03-27-2017, 06:51 AM

I have removed all the valves on this 37 engine no problems except the last one no. 7 intake clip Just won't come out, It's very loose but won't pop out. I've tried tapping it above the clip, yes I have made a wire puller, even have a heavier hook ( radiatior hose remover) squirted it, tapped this way, that way but it won't come off the guide. I'm worried if I keep working it I'll snap the tag of and then I'll really be in trouble.. Should I just try take the cam out and will the lifter just fall out and keep at it ? Any further tricks?? Frustrated..

marko39 · 03-27-2017, 07:29 AM

with that valve up you should be able to reach the top of valve guide with a small drift pin. drive guide down a hair and clip will come out. you are lucky you have only one stuck as i have seen motors in which i could get only one out!

Talkwrench · 03-27-2017, 06:34 PM

Ok, think I got what you mean..

GB SISSON · 03-27-2017, 09:05 PM

Are you repairing a running engine or stripping a block for a rebuild? Some removal methods are more aggressive than others. I just bought NORS exhaust valves for 8 bucks apiece.

Talkwrench · 03-27-2017, 11:12 PM

I am stripping everything however all the parts are serviceable so I don't want to butcher anything..

Geez where did all the engine builders go today ..??

cretin · 03-27-2017, 11:42 PM

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Marko39's suggestion seems like the way to go. Maybe try some penetrating oil for a few days, and/or some gentle heat before trying it.

Tinker · 03-27-2017, 11:51 PM

suppooooosably you can put wood wedges in to retain the spring/valves and pull the cam, turn the block over so the lifter is down, so i've heard.... I wouldn't pull the cam without retaining or removing the springs.

A spare ford horseshoe clip wouldn't be difficult here to find.

....With that said and being one valve. Flip the block and use a valve fork to compress the spring. Then have someone pull the cam out. done.

or one of these...

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Talkwrench · 03-28-2017, 01:39 AM

I have a mate that has something similar that sneaks behind the valve, but I couldn't quite get how you lift the valve up far enough to get it behind?? Frustrating as I have given it a decent tug and that damn clip wont pop out, loose as but ...nup! I'll have another crack when I get home .

flatheadmurre · 03-28-2017, 02:39 AM

You take the keeper on the bottom out and then the valve comes up enough to get guide driver in.
Tap the guide down a bit to get the horseshoe clip out.
If you got all the rest of them out that easy you should buy a lottery ticket...your on a roll !!
Half of mine takes a plasmatorch and boltcutter to get apart.

Talkwrench · 03-28-2017, 07:13 AM

Got it! Had another crack at it used the heavier hook bent it out of shape a bit but it eventually popped out, all good.

So now the next stage of the engine build... Stay tuned!

03-27-2017, 06:51 AM	#1
Talkwrench Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 2,687	Valve retaining clip I have removed all the valves on this 37 engine no problems except the last one no. 7 intake clip Just won't come out, It's very loose but won't pop out. I've tried tapping it above the clip, yes I have made a wire puller, even have a heavier hook ( radiatior hose remover) squirted it, tapped this way, that way but it won't come off the guide. I'm worried if I keep working it I'll snap the tag of and then I'll really be in trouble.. Should I just try take the cam out and will the lifter just fall out and keep at it ? Any further tricks?? Frustrated.. __________________ *"Came too close to dying to stop living now!"*

03-27-2017, 07:29 AM	#2
marko39 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: harpursville ny Posts: 1,040	Re: Valve retaining clip with that valve up you should be able to reach the top of valve guide with a small drift pin. drive guide down a hair and clip will come out. you are lucky you have only one stuck as i have seen motors in which i could get only one out!

03-27-2017, 06:34 PM	#3
Talkwrench Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 2,687	Re: Valve retaining clip Ok, think I got what you mean.. __________________ *"Came too close to dying to stop living now!"*

03-27-2017, 09:05 PM	#4
GB SISSON Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Orcas Island Washington Posts: 4,945	Re: Valve retaining clip Are you repairing a running engine or stripping a block for a rebuild? Some removal methods are more aggressive than others. I just bought NORS exhaust valves for 8 bucks apiece. __________________ Owner/Operator of 'Jailbar Ranch' on the side of Mt. Pickett. Current stable consists of 1946 1/2 ton pickup turned woodie wagon with FH V8, 1947 Tonner Pickup (red) mostly stock with exception of a cummins 6at turbo diesel, 1946 Tonner Pickup (green) with 226 cu in 6 cyl flathead, 1979 Toyota landcruiser wagon, completely encased in 1947 Ford Jailbar sheet metal. Ok, cornbinder rear fenders..... 'Rusty ol' floorboards, hot on their feet' (Alan Jackson)

03-27-2017, 11:12 PM	#5
Talkwrench Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 2,687	Re: Valve retaining clip I am stripping everything however all the parts are serviceable so I don't want to butcher anything.. Geez where did all the engine builders go today ..?? __________________ *"Came too close to dying to stop living now!"*

03-27-2017, 11:42 PM	#6
cretin Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: S.F.V. Cali. Posts: 133	Re: Valve retaining clip Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Marko39's suggestion seems like the way to go. Maybe try some penetrating oil for a few days, and/or some gentle heat before trying it.

03-27-2017, 11:51 PM	#7
Tinker Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: MN Posts: 7,053	Re: Valve retaining clip suppooooosably you can put wood wedges in to retain the spring/valves and pull the cam, turn the block over so the lifter is down, so i've heard.... I wouldn't pull the cam without retaining or removing the springs. A spare ford horseshoe clip wouldn't be difficult here to find. ....With that said and being one valve. Flip the block and use a valve fork to compress the spring. Then have someone pull the cam out. done. or one of these... . Last edited by Tinker; 03-28-2017 at 12:29 AM.

03-28-2017, 01:39 AM	#8
Talkwrench Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 2,687	Re: Valve retaining clip I have a mate that has something similar that sneaks behind the valve, but I couldn't quite get how you lift the valve up far enough to get it behind?? Frustrating as I have given it a decent tug and that damn clip wont pop out, loose as but ...nup! I'll have another crack when I get home . __________________ *"Came too close to dying to stop living now!"*

03-28-2017, 02:39 AM	#9
flatheadmurre Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Sweden Posts: 3,045	Re: Valve retaining clip You take the keeper on the bottom out and then the valve comes up enough to get guide driver in. Tap the guide down a bit to get the horseshoe clip out. If you got all the rest of them out that easy you should buy a lottery ticket...your on a roll !! Half of mine takes a plasmatorch and boltcutter to get apart.

03-28-2017, 07:13 AM	#10
Talkwrench Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 2,687	Re: Valve retaining clip Got it! Had another crack at it used the heavier hook bent it out of shape a bit but it eventually popped out, all good. So now the next stage of the engine build... Stay tuned! __________________ *"Came too close to dying to stop living now!"*