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Old 08-18-2020, 02:39 PM   #1
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Hi All,


Read this on another forum so I thought I would post it here just for your information. Just something to think about, I have not heard of anything like this in the Model A world. I have faith that Randy knows his job and am not worried.


http://57fordsforever.com/smf/index.php?topic=8352.0


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Old 08-18-2020, 02:45 PM   #2
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I just learned something. Thanks.
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Old 08-18-2020, 03:07 PM   #3
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Those look like they've been on there a looong time............
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Old 08-18-2020, 08:08 PM   #4
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Well, we'll see how well the bonded shoes I just put on the front of my car do. Haven't heard anything bad about the Model A ones yet but who knows.
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What was said about car not being driven and rust getting under the shoes is interesting. Never had a problem with Randy's but we need to DRIVE our cars. Not good to let them sit.
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In my time in the workshop, we replaced many sets of bonded linings with riveted on woven ones, not because of these problems but because the woven linings are softer than any bonded ones and therefore give better braking. I have taken the bonded linings off hundreds or shoes and never have I seen anything like what was shown in that forum. There is always a lot of misinformation out there and I think the hysteria this guy is trying to whip up is totally unwarranted. Those shoes were obviously relined by someone who didn't know what he was doing, that's all.
That said, I use woven linings riveted to the shoes for the better braking the softer lining gives, not for this.
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Correctly professionally glued brake pads will not come off the brake shoe! Regardless of whether it is a long standstill with moisture or downhill to smoke. Never!

However, I have already once seen detachment during installation, since a hobbyist had tried it in the kitchen oven at home.

Here you can buy all friction linings glued or riveted as you wish. Soft or hard - everything is available.
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Synchro, do you use steel or iron drums? Not to pull this too far off topic but I've heard that the iron has more "bite" to it than the steel drums so woven vs molded becomes more of a wash.
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Synchro, do you use steel or iron drums? Not to pull this too far off topic but I've heard that the iron has more "bite" to it than the steel drums so woven vs molded becomes more of a wash.
Over my 4 Model As, I have both steel and cast iron drums. My best braking car has iron on the front with the readily available "floating wedge" kit. It has steel ones on the back. Ina recent test, I scored 0.78 G under brakes. I now make another modification that improves things quite a bit further with less pedal pressure. I chose that combination of steel and iron because the coefficient of friction is higher with iron than steel (that is, more "bite") We all know that Henry set up the Model A with more barking at the rear than is done now so I am moving as much as I can to the front.
Most of the linings I removed in that workshop were from all sorts of makes or cars other than Ford.
I suspect the lining job done in that forum was simply a poor job. Bonded linings are VERY rarely like that.
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I rivetted woven linings on my AA shoes.
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