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Brian · 12-13-2016, 12:50 AM

Question about Ken's roadster; The sides of the cowl have lacing running down them. 35's have that feature, 36's [all the ones I've ever seen] have rubber bumpers down there. Is that roadster actually a 35 with 36 sheetmetal?

Donpet · 12-13-2016, 12:56 AM

This 36 Woodie was once owned by film star Gloria Swanson. I bought it from the prior owner of 55 years. Original except for repainted fenders. Runs great and I use it for local travel around town.

blucar · 12-13-2016, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian

Question about Ken's roadster; The sides of the cowl have lacing running down them. 35's have that feature, 36's [all the ones I've ever seen] have rubber bumpers down there. Is that roadster actually a 35 with 36 sheetmetal?

I just reviewed the '35-36 Ford Book. It is a well known fact that the cowl of the '35-36 Fords differ on several points, especially on the cowl.
A '35 does not have the X shaped re-enforcing pattern on the cowl sides. The windlace is on the top and sides of the cowl on the '35, where-as the windlace is only on the top of the cowl, with rubber bumper plugs on the side of a '36.
Since there is no evidence of a raised area where the rubber plugs would have been, but there is the X pattern on Kens '36, one could assume his car is an early car anomaly.

Ken Bull · 12-13-2016, 04:24 PM

My 36 restoration took from 1987 to 2011 and it has been a Joy to drive and Fun to show. Its For Sale *(!@#$#*& =If someone comes along and buys it === Wow! mind numbing!

tony starr · 12-13-2016, 05:50 PM

Not mine but a nice '36 coupe I took a photograph of. Happy 80 years...

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Brian · 12-19-2016, 04:52 AM

A '35 does not have the X shaped re-enforcing pattern on the cowl sides. The windlace is on the top and sides of the cowl on the '35, where-as the windlace is only on the top of the cowl, with rubber bumper plugs on the side of a '36.
Since there is no evidence of a raised area where the rubber plugs would have been, but there is the X pattern on Kens '36, one could assume his car is an early car anomaly.

It is well documented that some 35's do indeed have the X in the sides of the cowl. I'm picking that particular car is actually a 35 with 36 sheetmetal.
Not 'nitpicking', it is a nice car, just not authentic, in my opinion.

CaliforniaBorn36 · 12-19-2016, 11:30 AM

Happy 80th and Happy Holidays to the Ford Barn gang

RobR'35 · 12-19-2016, 12:06 PM

Does Ken's car by chance have the body number tag still attached? All open cars were made by Murry and as far as I'm to understand had a ID plate/tag.
Mine is a March manufacturered car via frame numbers and no X with a lower body ID plate number.
Be curious to know the body number.

JM 35 Sedan · 12-19-2016, 12:57 PM

Early '35's did not have the X reinforcement on sides of cowl, but later '35's did have the X reinforcement. I own original '35's with and without the X pattern on cowls. There have also been claims that some '35's came off the assembly with an X on one side and smooth on the other side
It's also conceivable that some early '36's could have been produced with '35 cowl side panels. Having worked for a large US manufacturing company, I know these kinds of things can and do happen in the name of keeping the assembly lines rolling to make production and keep the cash flowing in.

Bursonaw · 12-19-2016, 03:52 PM

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Happy 80th and Happy Holidays to the Ford Barn gang

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Gary Tosel · 12-19-2016, 04:25 PM

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all Ford Barners. Happy 80th anniversary for may 36 Ford 5W Coupe in front of the St. Paul Minnesota Ford Plant, now only a memory.

12-13-2016, 12:50 AM	#41
Brian Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Masterton, New Zealand Posts: 3,829	Re: 80th anniversary for the 1936 Ford Question about Ken's roadster; The sides of the cowl have lacing running down them. 35's have that feature, 36's [all the ones I've ever seen] have rubber bumpers down there. Is that roadster actually a 35 with 36 sheetmetal? __________________ Unfortunately, two half wits don't make a whole wit!

12-13-2016, 05:50 PM	#45
tony starr Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: melb, aus Posts: 141	Re: 80th anniversary for the 1936 Ford Not mine but a nice '36 coupe I took a photograph of. Happy 80 years... -- __________________ tony-starr.com Last edited by tony starr; 12-18-2016 at 11:49 PM. Reason: broken image fixed

12-19-2016, 04:52 AM	#47
Brian Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Masterton, New Zealand Posts: 3,829	Re: 80th anniversary for the 1936 Ford A '35 does not have the X shaped re-enforcing pattern on the cowl sides. The windlace is on the top and sides of the cowl on the '35, where-as the windlace is only on the top of the cowl, with rubber bumper plugs on the side of a '36. Since there is no evidence of a raised area where the rubber plugs would have been, but there is the X pattern on Kens '36, one could assume his car is an early car anomaly. It is well documented that some 35's do indeed have the X in the sides of the cowl. I'm picking that particular car is actually a 35 with 36 sheetmetal. Not 'nitpicking', it is a nice car, just not authentic, in my opinion. __________________ Unfortunately, two half wits don't make a whole wit!

12-19-2016, 12:06 PM	#49
RobR'35 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Upper Peninsula, Michigan Posts: 604	Re: 80th anniversary for the 1936 Ford Does Ken's car by chance have the body number tag still attached? All open cars were made by Murry and as far as I'm to understand had a ID plate/tag. Mine is a March manufacturered car via frame numbers and no X with a lower body ID plate number. Be curious to know the body number.

12-19-2016, 12:57 PM	#50
JM 35 Sedan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Near Rising Sun, Maryland Posts: 10,858	Re: 80th anniversary for the 1936 Ford Early '35's did not have the X reinforcement on sides of cowl, but later '35's did have the X reinforcement. I own original '35's with and without the X pattern on cowls. There have also been claims that some '35's came off the assembly with an X on one side and smooth on the other side It's also conceivable that some early '36's could have been produced with '35 cowl side panels. Having worked for a large US manufacturing company, I know these kinds of things can and do happen in the name of keeping the assembly lines rolling to make production and keep the cash flowing in. __________________ *John* *"Never give up on what you really want to do. The person with big dreams is more powerful than one with all the facts". Albert Einstein*

12-19-2016, 04:25 PM	#52
Gary Tosel Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,137	Re: 80th anniversary for the 1936 Ford Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all Ford Barners. Happy 80th anniversary for may 36 Ford 5W Coupe in front of the St. Paul Minnesota Ford Plant, now only a memory. Last edited by Gary Tosel; 11-02-2018 at 07:41 PM.